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Mismatched Missions - Unfair?

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  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    My farm is level 109.  I was in a mission today with players much higher than that (I don't care, really about that).
    Also in the mission was some poor level 13, trying to collect eggs from one little level 1 chicken coop, that I couldn't even sparkle for them, because level 13 is too low to accept sparkles.  Please, no one can tell me that something that farmer did put their farm in league with level 109 +.  :(
    @Byron Longford (AU1) said above it should not matter, but it does:(
    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/144900/mission-rp-divjsion#latest
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 28.07.2019
    Well 8 months later from GGS agreeing that formula is NOT working as it is suppose to compensate for mis-match mission and NOTHING done not even a peep from GGS.  They had time to make 2 new events to try encourage players to do missions, but ignored the easy option to fix formula which there has been complaints about for years.  @WascallyWabbit @WiseWing can we please get any info on what if anything in happening.  Thanks
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    Mission matchmaker and division maker

    seems to work really great on International server

    I'd rather have a bit more range in the missions, instead of waiting 15 minutes to find the perfect people for missions

    You can always start the Stackmaster for 1 hour, and find yourself some good matching missions ( And yes you'll have plenty of those )


  • You have always missed the point on this.  GGS has agreed the formula for calculating RP is not correct and not working as it should.  We just want the formula fixed to how it is suppose to work.

    GGS has said that formula is not working correctly, need to be fixed

    GGS has said formula is not working as it should and needs to be fixed.

    GGS HAS SAID FORMULA IS WRONG to how THEY have said it is suppose to work

    GGS  agree it is not right and needs to be fixed 8 months ago

    GGS said this
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    edited 28.07.2019
    Wow...

    It is like it is

    The formula is the same for every player

    No matter if its perfect or not

    No matter what GG does, You seem to hate it, Dont you?

    I see plenty of new players, getting involved in missions, for the league, and scoring good :)

    more different winners in missions, so something must work right




  • ijrosh (US1)ijrosh (US1) US1 Posts: 1,325
    Wow...

    It is like it is

    The formula is the same for every player

    No matter if its perfect or not

    No matter what GG does, You seem to hate it, Dont you?

    I see plenty of new players, getting involved in missions, for the league, and scoring good :)

    more different winners in missions, so something must work right




    you just dont understand do you it has nothing to do with whether he likes it or not GGS had a worker look at the formula and admitted it is not working properly after a lot of players did the math and there work for them and proved with out a doubt the way they want it to work is not happening some of us would like the game to work properly has nothing to do with if we agree with the way it works or not because them said it is broken so in fact we should not like it the way it is unless you like broken things which i am guessing you do 
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    I dont see it as broken

    So i guess, its all relative to everyone's perception




  • ijrosh (US1)ijrosh (US1) US1 Posts: 1,325
    I dont see it as broken

    So i guess, its all relative to everyone's perception




    the game designers you know the ones that make the game the ones that make the rules the one that makes the formulas they say it is broken so no when the designer of the game the ones that know how it is supposed to work tell you it is broken it is broken you dont go to get your car looked at and they say your tire is broken and you say well there is still some air in it it is fine 
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    edited 28.07.2019
    Maybe its not that much broken :)

    Your car can still work fine, with a few scratches ;o

    Lets just stop fighting, it brings nothing to the table
  • Exxy, you are correct that it is the same for everyone, so in that sense it is not causing unfairness, between players of the same level, but Byron & Ijrosh are also correct, it is known that the RP is not working as it should be & it most definitely does need fixing, because the whole point of the formula is to make it possible for players of all levels to be in missions together & the lower levels to not be at a disadvantage, which they would be, the way that things are working.

    Byron & ijrosh, we have continued to push this issue back on to the table at every opportunity, we raised it again last week & are waiting to hear back what the current status is.
  • Summer (SKN1)Summer (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 844
    Wow...


    I see plenty of new players, getting involved in missions, for the league, and scoring good :)

    more different winners in missions, so something must work right




    Weeelllll.... My experience at my server is different. Most players seem to have stopped doing missions and the same players that took the gold medal first round could sit easy and just collect the next gold medal. Just doing one small mission second round to secure that they are counted. Looks to be the same for round three.

    But! Believe we should be carefull generalizing. Understanding that what we experience at our server is not neccessarily the show case for our server or all BF servers.

    Cheers :) 

  • Not sure what the formula is ...but it sure it isn't perfect :/
    In Event One I was matched exactly with my level which was pretty fair - fishing levels were different for people ...but that depends on how active you are in Fishing & Hard Worker Fish.
    Now Cooperative Championship shows up, my group got assembled anew, that's fine - but level matching disappeared ...WHY???   I mismatched with levels higher than me !!  
    I thought we are going to keep this fair ???  I don't want to compete with people who have higher levels than mine, as it means their farms are also more developed ....  
    So not I'm just waiting for the Co-opcha to end and see who my new "team of players witll be :)

    As far as game designers go - putting in a code match level XX to level XX ain't rocket science :/
    Better luck next time , right ??
  • archerbob (AU1)archerbob (AU1) AU1 Posts: 531
    GGS doesn't give a stuff, I frequently get my 144 lvl account matched with players like dolphin who is lvl 712 last I looked... not fair at all
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    i am level 309 and even some lower levels can beat me all down to if they use gold and i dont, are they playing longer than me ? there are fake accounts made by high level players made just for the CC, it will be impossible for them to sort it out.
  • archerbob (AU1)archerbob (AU1) AU1 Posts: 531
    some of the co-ops use multiple accounts just in events to win, frankly it not hard to identify those accounts cause they only play in events and have low rep points, but score millions in an event.  I frequently see fully tricked out accounts that have no decorations on their farms, they just exist to spam and at the end of the day GGS won't do anything about cause these are the accounts that probably pay for the game
  • From personal experience, i would say that i get at least 2-3 players every mission with at least 150-250 lvl's above me.

    now, i understand that it would take ages to find 5 players i the your lvl bracket to compete with and you'd either end up with less than 5 other players or it would take twice as long for looking for a mission as it does right now.

    it terms of what we could do instead, maybe if the 5 minutes is up and the mission-searcher has less than 5 other players maybe ggs could implement and kind of computer account to fill in the empty spaces and it could collect a amount for the mission depending on all the players lvl's and capabilities.
  • Ozzie (AU1)Ozzie (AU1) AU1 Posts: 524
    edited 09.09.2019
    I've just finished a mission but the timer has frozen at 00:00.  It has frozen with 6 hours on the clock.  This bug will not (probably) give me 10% bonus for playing the next mission within 2 minutes.  I have to log out & back in again.  Very annoying.

    My points for the cc are not even being included on the weekly leaderboard.

    Bug seems to have vanished.  Points are now on the leaderboard & the 2 minute countdown has appeared.

    Strange.  Very strange.
    Post edited by Ozzie (AU1) on
  • rpggal33 (US1)rpggal33 (US1) US1 Posts: 150
    Life is not fair, you can't expect everything to be fair with the game.
  • case001 (US1)case001 (US1) US1 Posts: 14
    bulls. t it means  duh 547 vs a 93 duh who going to win ?   rep.no mean crap as long as everybody plays it . it a joke.. boycott it until they fix it
  • Let's do something to make the these missions fair.  Farms that are at level 130 are being put with farms that are level 430.  It is impossible for lower levels to compete in any way, shape, or form.  We are getting too many discouraged fairly new farmers wanting to leave or feeling despondent.  Let's fix this PLEASE..
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
     During the CC it is really tough for lower players to do well with out gold use. I usually suggest to our lower level players/members to not to worry to much about how well you do, but the fact that you do earn certs to help improve your farm with each mission you do play in. So one day you will be able to do better during missions.
     Until then just Keep on Farming! 
  • case001 (US1)case001 (US1) US1 Posts: 14
    boycot them it a joke big players win im a lvl 93 and had a lvl 543   duh.. who going to win
  • im frustrated with missions im at level 93 and being put up against higher levels 150 and up why cant this be branched off like other contests cant compete against those higher levels
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    edited 12.09.2019
    and I am frequently beaten by players who are 200 levels below me. Get used to it !
    The purpose of missions is to earn RP and certificates.

    (and this thread was about Projects. we are off topic)
    (WiseWing: the comments are moved to correct thread, so not off topic any more)
    (thank you WW)
    Post edited by Uncle John (GB1) on
  • u think (US1)u think (US1) US1 Posts: 39
    This is an ongoing issue.....  the formula they use to pit players against players....has a bug issue.     They getting it all wrong.levels  from 25 to 50 .. grp 1.... 51 to 75 grp 2...76 to 100 group 3...101 to 150  grp 4 .. 151  to 200 grp 5....201 to 275 grp 6 .. 276 to 300  grp 7  .. 301 and higher .. gpr 8.   Having players pitted against players of their same level.. at least they have a chance.    Higher levels play against those who are of same level & leave us lower levels alone.. This would be all fair.


  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    This is an ongoing issue.....  the formula they use to pit players against players....has a bug issue.     They getting it all wrong.levels  from 25 to 50 .. grp 1.... 51 to 75 grp 2...76 to 100 group 3...101 to 150  grp 4 .. 151  to 200 grp 5....201 to 275 grp 6 .. 276 to 300  grp 7  .. 301 and higher .. gpr 8.   Having players pitted against players of their same level.. at least they have a chance.    Higher levels play against those who are of same level & leave us lower levels alone.. This would be all fair.


    And you would be in a mission by yourself 90% of the time and getting almost 0 RP. There aren't enough people that play missions to break them up into levels like that.

    If they'd fix the RP formula that isn't being calculated correctly, as we pointed out almost a year ago, then this wouldn't even be an issue.

  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 19.11.2019
    well it is time to raise this thread again.  We are closing in on 1 year to when GGS said that they would fix this formula, even had their balancers look at the numbers and agree it is not working correctly and need fixing.  In this year they have added FL and no fix of formula.  They have added Master league and no fix of formula.  They are throwing more CC at us more than ever before and still no fix of formula.  They have added Dream world and no fix of formula. They have added apartment but still no fix of formula.  They have added community cow shed and still no fix of formula. 

    Remember it was GGS that also agreed this formula needs fixing.


    edit:  oops I missed a couple....lol

    They broke the VF and still no formula fix
    they removed calendar and no formula fix
    they updated Candy farm, viking farm, tropical farm, Northern lights but no formulas fix
    Post edited by Dark Underworld (AU1) on
  • I am now level 178 and get in same mission, sometimes, with  like a level 65.  They must use gold because I get creamed.  On same mission might have a level 250 or even 310 sometime, I guess because they are not really trying they also are totally run over But again sometimes they post extreme large amount at 1st and shelve it and win 1st place.  It really doesn't seem to matter what level you are - some one is ready to spend money to buy gold, or grow it - and wham!  you are dead in the water.  I'd like to see game played with no gold, no instants, just plain plant and harvest.  I don't see this ever happening though since Good Games would go broke.
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
  • rie22 (US1)rie22 (US1) US1 Posts: 361
    I've had my rear handed to me by lower levels...
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