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the decrease in running cost in the positive area back to close to 0% in the new system is easier actually than the old system. it's more a matter of what "running cost" you could reach by putting all your decos in your farm before the update and what "running cost" you can reach now by doing that in comparison.
I just learned that one of our key players in our coop has decided to quit playing simply because og the happiness reduction. She has been spending gold and thus giving money for the game providers. She and many like her will stop and it will cost the money hunger game providers with less money earned. This is sheer stupidity.
I like playing but must consider that three farms may be two too many. There will ultimately be two less farms where I will spend money occationally if I do not decide to stop playing all together.
I think this change has to be reconsidered. Give different max happiness depending on how many different farm animals we have or something, but let those who have well balanced farms have the chance to reach 100 %. Increase the min cost for each product to reduce our earnings, if that's the reason for this change, but do something soon or many key players will be gone!
Well, unfortunately that is not really possible when people have been taken advantage of after spending gold that they bought and millions of dollars on charity drives that are totally worthless now.
You change has created an unfair advantage for the players. -100 running cost is totally unattainable now and don't tell me it isn't. I spent 8 million dollars for a retarded telescope and the maximum change in running cost was 2%.
You are charging the players for GGS inability to provide new and exciting farms in the last year. We should not have to pay for your failures. New farms would have generated a wave of new gold buying. But instead you come out with this broken new background screen that has worked since you installed it. Just to keep people quiet for a while about the game becoming boring. Didn't work from day one nice try.
As I stated in a What do you think reply, Why not turn the farm into a deco farm that way we don't waste time buying and building farm facilities. Many including my self spend big dollars in gold to handle our running cost and you have now destroyed that after taking our money when we bought your gold.
As I have explained to all in our coop, "Decease from buying gold and deco's" that have no effect on running cost. Play the game as is.
Very shameful of GGS to charge the customer for their failure to provide new and exiting farms. Instead we get broken down horse stables, Boats that don't sail, a glass house with nobody in it and a retarded glass build to show how stupid we as players were in the beginning to buy such foolish items now and display them to the world.
You have had an entire year to create a new farm and wasted it on such nonsense as what we have today. Very Very sad. I don't want to quit the game I want to be here to see this thing collapse. Sad, Sad
Oh and the new Gourmet farm? Will avoid if possible, that way I don't waste time on it
Most ( not all) of my posts also include topic related stuff presented in a withing the rules manner, and i demand that gets to stay!
thank you.
Ok this is the thing Latten you said that it was to make some consequences for those players who had no happiness on their farm. No decorations. The fact of the matter is you punished those who had decorations to the hilt! You punished those who bought decorations with their hard earned dollars and supported the company. So what you say makes no sense. BTW I am also supportive of those players who ran with no decos, its their farm (even though i ran mine at 300% most of the time). So the only sort of apology at this point that will work for me will not be the one that will work in words, it won't be one that will work with a substitute, the only one that will work is by removing this update and returning the game to prior update.
In simple terms as I see it, players wanted higher value decs, they got them, they wanted higher storage capacity, they got them, they wanted higher lever houses and production, they got them, they wanted more farms, they got them......as a result it has made the game top heavy and so these changes have had to be made to re-balance and for future development (which is also being cried for).
Now was it the new players, or the lower, or mid level players that cried for increased this or that......and is it those new/lower/mid level players that seem to be disgruntled with the happiness revamp!
There is an old adage, " be careful what you wish for ............".
Doubt that will happen. The previous posts I think Latten already stated the happiness stays as is.
I'm sorry for my initial angry tone if it offended anyone, was troubled by the update announcement being a bit misleading since I thought I knew what to expect.
I feel a lot better having heard the folks over there actually know the update wasn't announced as well as it could have been. I'm not bothered that the game has to become harder, it's in GGS's rights to change their game, and I do believe I signed the Terms of Use that stated so. It's also everyone's human right to make mistakes, nothing unforgivable has happened imo. X) (to me, I do understand some players that payed for decorations with gold might feel worse though)
Shows that several posts got deleted.. made by several players, me being one.
The weird thing is.. NO MODERATOR WAS ONLINE DURING THE DELETION.
I'm running out of patience with these ppl and their conspiracies, so whichever mod deleted the posts make it clear plz here, and i sincerely ask again to take a serious action against this flood, cause no matter how many times their posts get deleted they just keep continuing to drive off the discussion into off-topic.
Latten said he removed them, did you read his post???
I see nothing about the topic in this post delete it
@Ellenbrock: Yeah, that's exactly how it should have been announced
And edit posts without just deleting it all if it contains on topic stuff maybe?
My point with the heads up was not.. "poor me"
But be aware that posts get deleted WITHOUT a mod online, that is responsible, and that one can talk to about it.
Thank you for your good advice. And to make this comparison possible you suggest to undo the update?
the estimated formula for old happiness system exists in forum threads, same as how the graph for the new one has been made already (example +325 happiness in total was -100% happiness and any happiness more than that was in vain) so remains only doing the mathematics, which i expect players to do it themselves, rather than asking for an update to be rolled back (which won't happen anyway cause the scale of effect and importance of this update on the more upcoming updates from now on is much bigger than what you guys think it is), to see whether i'm right about that idea or not.
Happy Gaming all - here or elsewhere - Hugz
In this thread alone.
So, up til today a whopping 317 different ppl have made atleast one post on this thread, so ive counted and done some adding up. Here are my results:
Players that are happy or atleast ok with the update: 33 = 10,4%
Players that are anything from not ok to very mad at the update: 246 = 77,8%
Players that are indifferent, or not decided : 13 = 4,1%
Players that just made a comment ( of topic or not saying y/n): 24 = 7,6%
player(s) that just spouted gibberish : 1 = 0,1%
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players in total : 317 = 100%
Of these disatisfied players, a lot said they would stop playing, and the results will be clear within a few weeks i guess.
Lots more would keep playing, but stop buying gold.
For the players that are anything from not ok to very mad at the update: 246 = 77.8%, is it safe to round this off to 80%?
After spending all these hours counting.. yes, i would say its a fairly safe thing to say:)
If you just take those that are for and agaisnt tho.. the against is 88% versus 12% for
plus i don't see, number of players "annoyed", "afraid to post", "tired of your blasphemy and conspiracies" in your list, so no offense but let's just say we leave that counting to mod and ggs themselves.
cause if i count and post my statistics here opposing yours again, it'll become a off-topic show again.
If so, what did you all lose ?
Or how did you achieve it ?
With the new formula and current happiness levels of decos, it would seem not worth it to attempt raising it beyond the -89%. You can read more about it here.