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Update January 28th - Deco-Tower and fertile fields - Discussion

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  • pixie2me2pixie2me2 Posts: 83
    edited 24.01.2014
    Talking to Space who happens to be in my coop just remember one thing, if gold players drift away, then the game becomes less attractive for GGS to maintain... so I would hope that any enhancements put forth from now are done so more transparently - there is no fun when we are screwed over financially. Lets hope GGS realises we are not being picky but being realistic with our hard earned dollars.
  • edited 24.01.2014
    Yes Pixie, you are very correct about that.
  • xmasbaby6xmasbaby6 Posts: 13
    edited 24.01.2014
    So you make promises that there is a big announcement coming for those of us who don't like flushing real $down the toilet? I buy gold but I'm not going to waste it to get some ridiculous decoration (sorry I don't care how much happiness it gives me $50-$100 is just not worth it for a few pixels). So what is GGS putting out there to make me want to continue logging in to a game (that for the most part I have basically finished) and seems to only want my $$ not keep the game fresh and fun??
  • MalikBilal2MalikBilal2 Posts: 374
    edited 24.01.2014
    cant agree more with you
  • ezio auditore3ezio auditore3 Posts: 2,399
    edited 24.01.2014
    All I see right now is people complaining about an edge for gold buyers......... Is that it? Is Big farm called 'just doing missions 24/7??' Or is it a 'fun game for the whole family to play' (provided you contact support or else the ban fairy will come and sprinkle acid all over your farm and destroy it :D)? No seriously, ignoring the joke in the brackets what do you think? And the second option doesn't just mean that it's for family it can also mean that it's for any age range :)


    Oh and Space thanks for agreeing, good to see another optimist :)
  • edited 24.01.2014
    xmasbaby6 wrote: »
    So you make promises that there is a big announcement coming for those of us who don't like flushing real $down the toilet? I buy gold but I'm not going to waste it to get some ridiculous decoration (sorry I don't care how much happiness it gives me $50-$100 is just not worth it for a few pixels). So what is GGS putting out there to make me want to continue logging in to a game (that for the most part I have basically finished) and seems to only want my $$ not keep the game fresh and fun??

    Maybe we could have "Empire meets Big Farm" for a week, whereby our farms get pillaged by crossbowmen and knights, then follow it up with "Good Galaxy raids Big Farm Remnants" for a month, where our farms get bombarded from orbit by great big interplanetary battleships, blasting us back into the Stone Age? Then, our lvl 90 (nearly) farms could end up back at level -180,000 and we could become Forced Labour (yes, Labour is spelled with a "u" on this side of the ocean - unless you're in the Labor Party... they can't spell either) on what were our own farms... now owned by the Kzinti Hegemony or whoever it is in Good Galaxy (I've never played it so I wouldn't have a clue).

    Would that make it more interesting for you?
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 24.01.2014
    Big Farm is still very much a free game, and still has plenty of strategy in it. You don't have to spend money, you don't have to buy gold, you don't have to spend gold. Big Farm can be played perfectly fine without needing to buy gold. I have played games before were you can't do anything unless you spend money, Big Farm is not like those games.

    ~Space~

    What strategy? Most of the strategy used in this game is through missions. This is even more prevalent when its a competition between players that wont gold skip during the mission. The winner becomes the player with the best strategy in regards to farm setup and timing of harvests. Now thanks to the recent additions of blue barns, library books, and the "gold fields" its all about who has the most gold to throw away to become the winner. This has made the planned mission overhaul irrelevant because the updates have made it even more unfair.

    I understand that GGS needs real money to keep this game going and I myself have bought gold on occasion. What I don't understand is the constant need to force feed us with promises of "new and exciting" updates only to end up disappointing a large number of players with this obvious almost desperate cash grab. I like playing this game but am growing tired of all the little prime day pop ups, giant library, the so called "hot deals", and now prime spending all designed to try to get us to throw away our hard earned gold....its insulting! :p
  • mstweety65 (US1)mstweety65 (US1) Posts: 38
    edited 24.01.2014
    Just one quick, thought-provoking comment:

    Would ANYONE that has lodged a complaint about the current update work for FREE? Money makes the world go 'round :)
  • FarmingGamerFarmingGamer Posts: 107
    edited 24.01.2014
    It is no fun for anyone to criticize about gold and non gold players.Like someone mentioned earlier " Using architect to upgrade fields and personally myself skipped gold and rushed up to upgrade 2 of my fields and now demolishing the same fields to get new fields with gold.Please do not tell me you don't have to do that if you don't want to.I know that but what is the whole point in upgrading architect buildings and then demolishing them to get new one's for gold.Before Barn,now fields next gold stables,gold orchards etc.

    Great going GGS
  • edited 24.01.2014
    mstweety65 wrote: »
    Just one quick, thought-provoking comment:

    Would ANYONE that has lodged a complaint about the current update work for FREE? Money makes the world go 'round :)

    Granted, I wouldn't... Taking your analogy further, however, I would also feel very guilty about taking my pay if I had built a building with defects in it, then knowingly improved the building up to the maximum architectural standard, had to demolish it, build a new building in its place and demand a performance bonus of a pile of gold bars for doing such a wonderful job on the new building.... oh and still keep the pay I received for building the original faulty building.

    I don't know whether or not any of your money is making GGS' world go 'round but I know that some of my money is. I care about what I've purchased with my money as I have too little of it to throw away on waste such as this and I can tell you that I've spent five times as much on this game as I usually spend on an "across the counter" game. My only hope is that we receive some sort of compensation in GOLD for any fields that we have built up with Steve's help (1,000 gold per field is a good round number) and now demolish to be replaced by the Fertile Fields, as due to his infrequent and indifferent service, I've used GOLD to skip production every time he's visited.
  • fro3fro3 Posts: 42
    edited 24.01.2014
    I don't know why everyone keeps saying these updates are benefiting gold players. I am a gold player and I don't feel any benefit. Having more things to buy isn't a benefit, really. That's just optional shopping. I'm not going to waste gold on any of these things. This update was supposed to be a content update for everyone. I thought that meant we'd be getting something to do. We didn't even get a (repeat) event this week! I am in a GREAT, high level co-op and we do projects back-to-back, but they never change! Please give us something new to do!! We love you, but we're BORED!
  • ezio auditore3ezio auditore3 Posts: 2,399
    edited 24.01.2014
    Well said Fro! :D
  • Kelly Eden2Kelly Eden2 Posts: 23
    edited 24.01.2014
    fro3 wrote: »
    I don't know why everyone keeps saying these updates are benefiting gold players. I am a gold player and I don't feel any benefit. Having more things to buy isn't a benefit, really. That's just optional shopping. I'm not going to waste gold on any of these things. This update was supposed to be a content update for everyone. I thought that meant we'd be getting something to do. We didn't even get a (repeat) event this week! I am in a GREAT, high level co-op and we do projects back-to-back, but they never change! Please give us something new to do!! We love you, but we're BORED!


    You as a gold player can have benefit from this update if you choose to. People like me who can't invest real money don't even have a chance to do what you call "optional shopping" so I don't expect you to understand what non gold users are saying.
  • xmasbaby6xmasbaby6 Posts: 13
    edited 24.01.2014
    You as a gold player can have benefit from this update if you choose to. People like me who can't invest real money don't even have a chance to do what you call "optional shopping" so I don't expect you to understand what non gold users are saying.
    She does understand, what she is saying is gold or no gold we need new stuff to do that will benefit everyone. It honestly isn't fun if everyone isn't enjoying the game
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 24.01.2014
    I'd be interested to see the prices for the fields. I imagine the first level of the field might not be too pricey, but in other cases we've seen how quickly gold costs go up per level.

    While the level 1-2 field might be affordable for even non-regular gold users, the later costs will likely stack up and make these fields not worth buying since you can't afford to get them over level 1-2 or something.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 24.01.2014
    I myself prefer my fields the size that they are. They give the farm a more natural look in scale with the rest of the buildings and such. Why would I want a field the size of a postage stamp? Even though I may be land starved most of the time in this game, I still want my farm to LOOK like a farm. That's also why I have all my fancy schmancy decos set off to one side. Then at least the rest of the farm looks right. But to each his own!
  • dragonpridedragonpride Posts: 574
    edited 24.01.2014
    i see pretty good arguments from both sides.my personal choice to buy gold comes from me being a very impatient person but i am fully aware that i dont have to buy anything i dont want.i wanted the expensive water tower and workshop.i decided against the very expensive blue barn and overpriced library books.its my choice to spin the roulette wheel.basically its your own choice if you decide not to throw 5 or 10 bucks at the game now and then(youll spend more than that going to a fast food place)and if your truly struggling so bad in life that you literally cant afford 5 or 10 bucks then its time to stop and ask yourself if paying a 30 plus dollar internet bill and playing games should really be your top priority.if this is not the case then its not ggs fault if you dont want to spend money on their game.
  • draas2draas2 Posts: 21
    edited 24.01.2014
    basically its your own choice if you decide not to throw 5 or 10 bucks at the game now and then(youll spend more than that going to a fast food place)and if your truly struggling so bad in life that you literally cant afford 5 or 10 bucks then its time to stop and ask yourself if paying a 30 plus dollar internet bill and playing games should really be your top priority.if this is not the case then its not ggs fault if you dont want to spend money on their game.

    thanks dragon pride. this is the logic that finally convinced me to throw some coins at this game. in free to play games, you either pay with your money or with your time. the question, then, is: how much is your time really worth?

    that being said, i also agree with fro3 -- all of these gold-focused updates are just optional spending. the field sounds tempting. i think about it in relative terms: what gold option will increase my productivity the most? once the price of the fertile field is revealed, the productivity worth of the field can be decided upon more seriously. until then, everything is just speculation.
  • pixie2me2pixie2me2 Posts: 83
    edited 24.01.2014
    I have a "choice" to spend my gold as I see fit, but, and I think this goes for most gold players dont like being, well what is a good word, hoodwinked, into spending gold needlessly when a few weeks later a newer, brighter, plaything is brought out... If they are going to keep changing a field let us know... most will wait... if they are going to change a barn... let us know... most will wait... The majority of players do want a balanced playing field of at least some items that are non-gold and possibly the new missions may bring some joy to them lets hope, but please dont tell me there is a new surprise and we should be excited when its a blantant attempt at a money grab
  • Bweatherholt (US1)Bweatherholt (US1) Posts: 359
    edited 25.01.2014
    Some of the people who play are just children. Therefore it is not up to them whether or not they buy gold or pay an internet bill. It is their parents. That has nothing to do with priority. This family friendly game makes it hard for younger kids, maybe college students who pay their way through college, a mother that needs to provide internet for their child education, to advance as a gold buyer would. Im sure there are several that wish they could buy gold but paying for internet is a must, gold isn't.
  • draas2draas2 Posts: 21
    edited 25.01.2014
    #1 - I doubt GGS is really a fan of equality or equal opportunity ethics. So, any logic on that rationale will just fall on deaf ears for 99.9% of the average audience.

    #2 - The vast majority of "free" internet games are designed to elicit real money from you. My approach is to be stingy with my money -- rather than to not spend money at all. This approach is a response to: a) playing "free to play" games that are actually impossible to play after a certain period without putting in real money (e.g., Shipwrecked); and b) having discretion on how my entertainment budget is spent. With a full understanding of the privileges that come with this approach, I am never surprised at game designers' ploys to get me to pull out my credit card or access my Paypal account. In fact, I expect the ploys to be there and to be aggressive. I consider it my responsibility to be an informed consumer when deciding whether and how to participate in a game's economy that is simply another manifestation of capitalism.

    #3 - If you are playing a game to compete against others, you will always be in a position of being envious of other's advantages to playing.

    #4 - I concur with previous sentiments that non-gold updates would be very much welcomed and that GGS is playing the surprise/excitement card a bit hard. I just want my fourth farm and the Gourmet farm to be revamped. Everything else is hogwash in my opinion. That being said, I am going to guess that there may be some alternative reason for the delays to the long-anticipated updates that do not have to do with GGS's capitalistic intentions. Something as simple as disagreement among the architects of the game may be at hand, or hard-to-find bugs in the beta designs. Whatever it is patience, resilience, and focus are the strings I am choosing to pull at this moment to make sure I invest in the forms of entertainment that are fulfilling for me.

    #5 - No matter what level you are at nor what your resources are, this game is not impossible to play without gold. It is not even difficult to play without gold. The non-gold grind may be annoying, time-consuming, and regrettable, but the game can still be played. And, eventually, even gold players hit a challenge to advancement where the grind is just part of the game. That's just life.

    Best,
  • ezio auditore3ezio auditore3 Posts: 2,399
    edited 25.01.2014
    That's a great post draas :)

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, this was a good idea when the team thought of it but then they realised that this would change a lot of peoples play style or negatively effect the game in some other way which is why the price tag is in gold?
  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 25.01.2014
    we make all this farm money now and we still have to buy gold.... this game isnt a game anymore alot of the fun has totally gone out of it... COMEON GGS Wake up & Smell the Roses...
  • draas2draas2 Posts: 21
    edited 25.01.2014
    That's a great post draas :)

    Has anyone stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, this was a good idea when the team thought of it but then they realised that this would change a lot of peoples play style or negatively effect the game in some other way which is why the price tag is in gold?


    thanks ezio auditore3.

    this was kind of my thinking on the thing. i mean, when i started playing four months ago, promise of a fourth farm was there. and the "coming soon" image in the village is still there. so, i'm thinking that a 4D farm game may have presented more challenges than they anticipated. such challenges increase the cost to development and raises the need/desire for them to put out more gold incentives. given that the gold incentives are pretty basic and don't add to or take away from the gaming process, they are easier to develop and release. the wait coupled with the goading, of course, irritates the players and causes them to question the intentions of the game designers. but the designers' intentions may simply be to build a bigger and better game than they've ever seen online thus far. innovation always has a set of challenges and excitements that cannot be fully comprehended by any one audience.

    in the end, though, we are all in anticipation because the underlying process of the game elicits positive feelings from us (even if it is nothing but addiction soothing), which means that GGS is doing a lot of things right.

    Best,
  • Kelly Eden2Kelly Eden2 Posts: 23
    edited 25.01.2014
    Some of the people who play are just children. Therefore it is not up to them whether or not they buy gold or pay an internet bill. It is their parents. That has nothing to do with priority. This family friendly game makes it hard for younger kids, maybe college students who pay their way through college, a mother that needs to provide internet for their child education, to advance as a gold buyer would. Im sure there are several that wish they could buy gold but paying for internet is a must, gold isn't.


    Well said. ;)
  • neriux777neriux777 Posts: 161
    edited 25.01.2014
    Sorry may post makes to much hate, I need to delete it. Thank you for game, no comment's.
  • dragonpridedragonpride Posts: 574
    edited 25.01.2014
    Some of the people who play are just children. Therefore it is not up to them whether or not they buy gold or pay an internet bill. It is their parents. That has nothing to do with priority. This family friendly game makes it hard for younger kids, maybe college students who pay their way through college, a mother that needs to provide internet for their child education, to advance as a gold buyer would. Im sure there are several that wish they could buy gold but paying for internet is a must, gold isn't.
    im speaking of people who i assume are adults who are always on the forum posting "gold is a rip off.ill never spend real money on pixels" and then blow up the forum with "gold is unfair.i cant play without it".gold is not a life or death need,its a luxury.its no more of a necessity than a shiny new ferrari or giant plasma screen tv.nice to have if your willing to make the sacrifices needed to get them but you dont truly need them.and again,if you have priorities like education or family life then perhaps you should focus more on those than clicking corn and selling apples.as far as children go,them being underage is not ggs fault,nor is any circumstance in a persons life that may prevent them from buying gold.ggs is a business and will always put their desire for money above the desires of free players.thats how business works.like it or hate it thats how it works.you can either enjoy what they do give you or dont because at the end of the day the only thing that matters to business is money.i dont like that i have to whip out the ol plastic money in order to enjoy the best features of the game either but im fully aware that no matter how much ggs tries to sugarcoat or baby talk to people who dont buy gold,they are a business and will always put paying customers before free players.
  • Bweatherholt (US1)Bweatherholt (US1) Posts: 359
    edited 25.01.2014
    Not relevant, Everyone's opinion is their own. No reason to leave the post!
  • draas2draas2 Posts: 21
    edited 25.01.2014
    there is no "winning" in this game...this is a never-ending free-to-play game...there's no maximum level. the only maximum is the personal and coop rank of 1, which is a relative ranking for both. so, what is winning anyway for any one individual anyway? having the largest farm? ok, well, if that is your definition of winning, then 99.999% of users will "lose" this game, by definition of how winners are defined. in all, anyone who comes to play this game to "win" will be endlessly frustrated.

    and, i am not sure if GGS ever advertised this game as kid-friendly. if they did, i doubt it refers to the pay-to-"win" aspects of the game.

    i do think time should just tell for itself with regards to total player load. i don't plan to quit just because ppl are trying to get paid. but kudos to those who do.
  • Bweatherholt (US1)Bweatherholt (US1) Posts: 359
    edited 25.01.2014
    It is posted as kid-friendly. Not kid-friendly to certain aspects. As I edited the post, this is irrelevant. The gold will increase. That is that. Have a great afternoon all:)
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