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Not fair

:huh: Why is it that the participant costs are different for the members of the coop? For example I am at level 50 and had to pay 80750 dollars for my participation spot and a fellow member only had to pay 70000 dollars. This is not right, the group members work as a team and should have to pay equal amounts. We all benefit the same, but some pay higher. SO NOT FAIR.
Post edited by buddybeau (US1) on

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  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 04.05.2013
    lower level players pay less because they make less
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    Duh. I didn't figure that one out on my own. Higer levels also have higher costs. The upgrades are all over a millions, for 15 stars. go team.
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 04.05.2013
    But still you can earn more money faster than lower level players. What it takes them few days you can maybe earn in a few hours. Lower level players have costs as well. It would be unfair that higher levels pay equal amounts of money. Higher costs are there to slow you in advancing as this is no race to finish line.
  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 04.05.2013
    sigh.
    so it would be fair for you to pay the same amount as someone level 70? I think you would object to that. GGS did a good job of balancing the participant research cost.

    If you have high operating costs--build decos.
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    Yes lower level players make less money. Higher level players take just as long to earn money, when the upgrades are well over a million. It took me ten levels to earn enough money to upgrade my windmill and I still have upgrades from 10 to 15 levels ago, that I haven't completed. I would like to add that it is some of my coop members that are also complaining that it is not fair that I have to pay 10 thousand more than they do to enter the research. Yes I know what lower levels earn, I was once a lower level member. Still trying to upgrade my restuarant to level five because I also have to upgrade my cow shed and numerous other upgrades because it takes forever to raise over a million dollars. This is fake money, so why not just make it equal for everyone to research. I also always put the last money to bring the funds to start fee.
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    No I would not object, we are doing the same job, should pay the same, receive the same benefits. Every heard of Equality for All.
    Sigh, Sigh
    I don;t have high operationg costs, it's not my first day playing this GAME. You can't really believe that you can tell what I would object to, and not object to, do you?
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    It is kind of funny that someone who doesn't even belong to a coop would give a thought an the fairness or equality of fees to another person. Pay the research costs before you start spouting your so called words of wisdom.
  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 04.05.2013
    wow i was in a coop--several of them. I have over 12 million invested in a coop. i think it is time to just enjoy the game and quit whining.
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    I do enjoy the game, love it in fact. What bothers me is we apparently can't really express an opinion without someone telling us to stop complaining. Isn't it true if you leave a coop the donations stay with the coop you left. So really the coops have your 12 million. I have also learned don't ask questions. SAD. I wasn't WHINING as you put it I was asking a question.
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 04.05.2013
    You don't have to upgrade everything. In fact some upgrades are more downgrades than upgrades. Because it needs to slow you down. You will later complain that all the projects you do are the same repeats (which they are but don't know on what level) and that game is not coded fairly. It is like that.

    Relax, enjoy the game, take the time to smell lavender and dung....and stop trying to beat the game.

    As for 'equality for all', if you have 1 million dollars from collecting products and your coop member has 100 000$ from collecting products that day, would it be fair that you both pay 50 000$ for project or that it is calculated by percentage of your max level possible income? Which I think it is in a way in this game.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 04.05.2013
    So you just said that higher levels take just as long to earn the money than lower levels. In that respect it would be seen as equality, thus as fair, no? This is the whole idea of the different amounts, to make you work equally hard for the amount you need to pay. If a lower level would earn the money needed in two days and you in a couple of hours, that would be unfair imho. But really, that's just my opinion, as I see you are getting pretty angry in the meanwhile. And yes, I also donate loads to get those researches started as I feel responsible for my co-op and others usually don't do it without asking several times.
  • buddybeau (US1)buddybeau (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 04.05.2013
    I am not angry, just confused. We are encouraged to express our opinion, then slammed for doing that. Enjoy your games, no more questions from me. All the members in our coop get along fine, and believe in equal opportunity for all. We all contribute to our coop, what ever amount you want, and we all participate in research. Enjoy!
  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 04.05.2013
    This is also posted in the general questions about the game section, not the praise/complaint section. I was only answering your question. I won't be so quick to jump in anymore.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 04.05.2013
    Well, slammed... Also depends on the way you read it. And I have noticed it is quite hard (for me) to read messages on the internet :S I do understand your point, but have my own opinion on it ;)
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 04.05.2013
    I speak from personal experience as a gamer who played around 100 different online games and a person who tried coding their own game that it is impossible to set the game to make everybody happy until the invention of Artificial Intelligence Gaming Experience Coding Program. Developers have to go one way or another and either way you go somebody will be unhappy.

    If what you says would happen (same amount for all) then all lower level players would complain they cannot be in a cooperation that demands too much from them so devs would have to make a code to allow +/-5 level players be in a single coop. to make it easier for others to play, which would also make loads people unhappy and so on. They opted for the percentage way.

    And yes, if this was not a question that needs answering but a criticism then it should be in a different place.
  • mai15mai15 Posts: 185
    edited 04.05.2013
    sigh.
    so it would be fair for you to pay the same amount as someone level 70? I think you would object to that. GGS did a good job of balancing the participant research cost.

    If you have high operating costs--build decos.

    I really agree with you. I pay a bit more then the reast of our team because my level is higher, but i can make the dollars needed very fast. It wasnt like that earlier. I also think GGS did a great job calculating how much we should pay :)
  • camii893camii893 Posts: 251
    edited 05.05.2013
    Hey buddybeau,

    Personally - I like that the lower members pay less for their researchers (whilst it does get annoying that each time I level up the price goes up - which is a little strange) but it just gives me the ability to encourage my lower level team members that they can make up the amount for the researcher because it is much less than how much I have to pay.

    Also, when it comes to the extra research funds in my co-op; people donate the amount as a percentage of the level they are in the co-op which means lower levels pay less and the higher pay more - as higher level players we can make money easier and faster than the lower levels.

    It's a little concerning that you are struggling to complete quests from 10 levels previously; as I have only ever had quests from 2 levels previous (except my mill which I made a decision to hold off on upgrading)

    - Can I ask what your happiness level is and what you have on your farm, as this may be an issue of your earning capabilities not being what they can be.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 05.05.2013
    Oh, that is also a good idea with the percentage of the level for donating extra research funds. What we do is just put on the news and in a group message that we need money and everybody that wants to donate donates. If there are people that didn't donate at all or have less donation than members comparable to their level after some time, we ask them personally if they can make a donation of xxxx amount of dollars. It also works quite well I must say. But I think I will keep that system in mind in case ours starts failing ^^
  • husthust Posts: 99
    edited 05.05.2013
    Well it is very fair...no harm in expressing an opinion.....what everyone trying to say is it is the same amount of headache for a lower level of player to hire a researcher as of a higher level player....if I get in a lvl 20 player in our co-op and ask to higer a researcher for 70,000 he will not play...ofcourse it is possible for every1 to have same cost for hiring researcher...then you will hire a researcher in 3 days and wait for the lower level player to hire another 10 days...and u will end up doing one or two researches per month
  • Irish30 (US1)Irish30 (US1) Posts: 264
    edited 05.05.2013
    Well if you want to know the real cost of the game just try having a level 16 co-op with only you, yourself and I as members...then you KNOW real costs my friend...hahaha...of course then I only have to listen to myself carry on about how the co-op is run and what is fair and not fair and he isn't even a member!!! Be safe and God Bless.

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