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Update April 29th - Naughty or Nice - Discussion

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  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 29.04.2013
    camii893 wrote: »
    Shame, you're not on my server Kat, you'd be on mine - the gift list that is; Astragek is still on my prank list, or both!
    It is a shame, I'd actually get you to prank me so I could see what it's all about! Thanks for the thought though. :)

    Kat. Kittie_by_otomosc.gif
  • Irish30 (US1)Irish30 (US1) Posts: 264
    edited 29.04.2013
    Whoa...SheepsFlower needs a little sunshine today I think...lol Have a great day Flower and smile a little. :- )
  • Irish30 (US1)Irish30 (US1) Posts: 264
    edited 29.04.2013
    Great...be safe. Happy farming.
  • roller3roller3 Posts: 8
    edited 29.04.2013
    Awesome!
    Simply Awesome!!!
  • CaitlynJ2CaitlynJ2 Posts: 9
    edited 29.04.2013
    I didn't know we were playing plants vs zombies.

    I actually kind of agree with Lmb, I prefer being helpful and cooperative and I am not sure if I would want to be in a coop with someone who was very cutthroat about the game.


    Wow Lmb, not sure I'd want to be in your co-op if you could remove someone who has spent their hard earned dollars, gold and participation in projects was just removed for playing a prank, a little harsh don't you think. Personally I find removing someone from your co-op much much much more malice than a prank.[/QUOTE]


    Post edited by Kat Nip: Merged posts, please use the edit button
  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 29.04.2013
    I think it REALLY depends on the prank used and what affect it does on matters within the co-op. There so much unanswered questions about this whole update mess.
  • CaitlynJ2CaitlynJ2 Posts: 9
    edited 29.04.2013
    I will reserve judgment, it could be fun. But I like the idea of being able to opt out. For some people who don't have unlimited time or gold it could really mess up their farm. 10 minutes may not be long for someone who can be on all day but for someone who only has that 10 minutes before they go to work, or on lunch break etc. it is a much bigger deal.

    Yes Monica it does depend on the prank and effect. If someone from my own co-op or someone I am friendly with played a prank on me, I would laugh and have fun with it.


    Post edited by Kat Nip: Merged posts, please use the edit button
  • debbiet5 (US1)debbiet5 (US1) Posts: 3
    edited 29.04.2013
    i only thought it was gonna be away to help someone out in need by sending gifts i am already having such a hard time getting my farm off and going now..
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 29.04.2013
    We got a couple of answers early on from CMs for aspects of the game (the event uses gold, you are disabled for about 10 minutes, etc.) but we still don't have clear answers on the things that seem to be the fundamental concerns for people in this topic:

    -What mechanisms are in place to prevent malicious pranking e.g. I read something I don't like so I get my co-op to gang up on the person who posted the thing that offended me?
    -Given that we are told pranks/gifts are bought with gold, what happens if you don't have the gold to buy these things; how do you defend yourself if people are pranking you?
    -Is there a cool down period in between pranks/gifts, e.g. are you "immune" for a time after getting gifted/pranked before you can have another gift/prank?
    -What sort of feedback are the devs looking for after this event? Do they plan to have this event regularly even if everyone hates it, or would they be willing to scrap it in that case?
    -Is there an opt-out option? (This seems to be a HUGE concern that nobody relevant has addressed.)
    -How will this affect missions? Are missions immune from gifts/pranks?
    -How exactly does the karma system work for buying gifts/pranks in lieu of gold?

    Having the answers to these questions might alleviate a lot of the worries that are evident in this topic. Again, as I said on page 1: I am not saying that I do not like this event off the bat, because it is obviously too soon to judge. However, we do not have very much information at all. I'm just raising some queries that I think we should be aware of, which will help people decide how (and whether) they will take part.
  • PlayerDiamond3PlayerDiamond3 Posts: 13
    edited 29.04.2013
    Has anyone been pranked or gifted yet? If anyone has taken part then maybe they could let the rest of us know how it works, what happens etc. Then maybe everyone can make there minds up, but with the facts rather than us all guessing. Just a thought. xx
  • UserLUBAJC (US1)UserLUBAJC (US1) US1 Posts: 25
    edited 29.04.2013
    OMG! Not to change the subject completely, but did anyone notice this major change? Was the old ugly information button replaced with a younger shiny blue version. What sinister prank is this? Shall I push it or will my farm explode?
  • Lya1Lya1 Posts: 2
    edited 29.04.2013
    Maybe the first prank was sent to programmers, that's why the event was delayed :p
  • edited 29.04.2013
    I noticed the new info button to.
    I like the new BLUE color.
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 29.04.2013
    I don't want pranks to be used when we do cooperative missions. And it can be done so it can ruin project for everyone. Not my kind of fun. Since some of them are growing crops, somebody messing with other persons crop is dangerous for whole cooperation and the mission.

    On the other hand I do like the idea of gifting some of the very active cooperative members. It is very nice to have people you can trust on your hand and I want them to know it. Even if I have to buy gifts for them in gold.

    I also wonder if cooperative leader can see who pranked somebody in the cooperative because it would kind of be important if you have a member who is ruining fun for people so they can get kicked.
  • edited 29.04.2013
    I'm starting to think this whole update was a prank.
    Half the day is over and there is still event going on at my farm.

    I really want to see how much the gifts and pranks cost,
    So i hope this event is going to start soon.
  • choppychop (GB1)choppychop (GB1) Posts: 789
    edited 29.04.2013
    Where are the gifts and pranks actually GIVEN to you? It says a shop but no explanation is given. The post doesn't say anything at all to extend on the shop part. Does it turn up randomly or what?
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 29.04.2013
    If we want the nice part of the event without the crappy part, why can't the event just be a gifting event instead of a gift and prank one? :/
  • bringiton3bringiton3 Posts: 1
    edited 29.04.2013
    This event wouldn't be so bad if you had an option to protect yourself from sabotage if your were doing a mission. Missions are hard enough to win without spending gold. Now worrying about having someone pull a "prank" while you're trying to win a mission is just going to make it that much harder. I really don't like it.
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 29.04.2013
    @jaystarr2
    The prank brings another gift in the way of karma that also brings another types of gifts to people who have been pranked but all I see is don't start anything with cooperative until this is over or face another waste of resources. In the end its gifting time, just bad time for cooperations.
  • Murkiss (US1)Murkiss (US1) Posts: 5
    edited 29.04.2013
    DISLIKE!!!
    The only reason I play this game is because it's a game of CREATION, not DESTRUCTION. If I wanted destruction, damage to anybody else's, or my own property, I would play battles or conquests. If during a mission, a player asks his coop memebrs for help, and they all damage my production facilities so that I could lose said mission, I would not be a happy camper.
    Plus, I do not want to wake up to my damaged property and start thinking about a pay-back.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 29.04.2013
    Hey Fluffy,

    Yeah I know there is a karma system, but it also hasn't been explained to us at all how the karma system works. From what I understand in this discussion, all we know is that if you get pranked you get "karma" for fixing your wrecked farm or field or whatever it is, and then you might somehow be able to purchase gifts/pranks with your karma points.

    But what's the conversion rate between karma and gold? Do you need to be pranked like 50 times before you can afford to buy your own prank? Or if the conversion rate is 1:1, then you could easily just do a pay it forward thing where one person in the coop buys the prank and then pranks someone who pranks someone who pranks someone... and not knowing the details of how that system would work is problematic for understanding the event at all.

    Basically the problem is that we know of a karma system but we don't know about it.
  • Irish30 (US1)Irish30 (US1) Posts: 264
    edited 29.04.2013
    #182 posts and we are as much in the dark as the inside of a coal miners lunch box...lol. Oh well maybe no news really is good news...we will just have to wait and see. :- )
  • sedefgul2sedefgul2 Posts: 12
    edited 29.04.2013
    I think everyone is pretty much anxious of the pranks, other than the good stuff, my understanding they show up and go back, right Kat.
    We have to try and see, it could be not that bad that we think.
    Everyone take it easy, I don't think people will prank for nothing, its only a game though
  • RulerFluffycat2RulerFluffycat2 Posts: 42
    edited 29.04.2013
    @jaystarr2
    i see your point. It may be set so that we want to get pranked so we can get a lot of karma to buy stuff. Like...tyre swing that will give 1234 happyness or something.
    What I think will happen is that...gifts you can buy with karma will be better than gifts alone and that you will be able to buy a protection against pranks for huge amount of gold. And still I cannot figure how it can help with cooperative, i can only see how it can hinder it.
  • Emrys Bryn (US1)Emrys Bryn (US1) Posts: 48
    edited 29.04.2013
    Its really sad actually. Its a good way for people to be bullied. I can see it happening already. Im a mom and see bullying everyday. Great to see it now happening in a peaceful and loving farm game. Way to go GGS. Lets see how many tearful children we will make when they come here wanting this as a safe place to play.

    Also, Ive been playing GGS games for almost 3 years now. The mods and CM's will always side with the game and developpers. I know thats your job. And I think Kat is an AMAZING mod, but she wont say anything negative.

    I know this for a fact because in Farmer the mods did the same thing and then when they were shutting it down and they quit, they came to the forum and told us all this and how they really felt about everything.

    Yes, I know I was a bit harsh in my comment, but Im now trying desperately to make THIS GAME understand that this isnt a good thing or appropriate in this game.

    Em 8)
  • G6144G6144 Posts: 1
    edited 29.04.2013
    When is this gonna start? It's almost April 30!
  • Beverly2142Beverly2142 Posts: 3
    edited 29.04.2013
    I personally intensely dislike pranks in real life, so why should I have to deal with them in a game. If there were a true opt-out then go for it, but if there is a possibility of someone pranking you and you have no defense against it (other than retaliate), then this is a bad idea. There are people that like April Fools Day and Halloween pranks, but there are also many that do not and would never participate in them. I don't care if it takes 10 seconds, 10 minutes or 10 days to fix, I shouldn't have to worry about it at all.
  • jenni72 (US1)jenni72 (US1) Posts: 2
    edited 29.04.2013
    when is the event going to start
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 29.04.2013
    @jaystarr2
    i see your point. It may be set so that we want to get pranked so we can get a lot of karma to buy stuff. Like...tyre swing that will give 1234 happyness or something.
    What I think will happen is that...gifts you can buy with karma will be better than gifts alone and that you will be able to buy a protection against pranks for huge amount of gold. And still I cannot figure how it can help with cooperative, i can only see how it can hinder it.

    Yep Fluffy, but that's the point--it is all still speculation as to how it would work. We don't have any useful information to go on.

    Emrys, personally I don't think it is the role of the mods to side with the game and its developers; they might feel like they should or something, but I don't think it is (or should be) in the job description of the mod to actively promote the game. Mods are drawn from the pool of players and in a way they should be players first. (CMs might be a different issue though.)

    As for bullying: one thing I've been trying to point out as an unforeseen consequence of the pranking thing is that people might become afraid to post on the forums if they think they have a view that is unpopular or something that people won't agree with. If they think they can get pranked in retaliation for expressing their views then that seems to be a serious effect on our forum community when people feel afraid to speak up without being punished. Again, nothing I have seen in this discussion has said that there are mechanisms in place to prevent this from happening.
  • mai15mai15 Posts: 185
    edited 29.04.2013
    But why no new update ?? Its weird isnt it ?
    Is this normal in this game ???(
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