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That's me exactly! I so was looking forward to buying the subscription packages
I also have level 7 Mayan library books I wanted to buy, and other plans for my farms which would use more gold. But no, I can't trust them that whatever I do, won't be snatched away in the name of 'rebalancing'.
I'm heartbroken, but I'll be fine without buying anymore gold, I'll just have to adjust.
It was good playing this game for 7-8 months straight.
My level 400+ farm looks nice. That will be a good memory.
Those who will still continue to play this game, kindly do keep reminding new players about this massive theft, so as they don't spend real money on something that will be taken away.
@Sheila NOLA Gal (US1)
Drop it love, they won't return anything. Move on ..
Once the playing field is even again they could re-introduce the kites at the correct booster for everyone to be able to get hold of.
But at the moment they have upset those that have the kites already, upset those that don't but that want to get them, players that know they'll never be able to compete with those that have them, so from my reckoning that covers pretty much every player out there!
Sad as it is though we all know they wont do the right thing by any of us. I so hope they prove me wrong ....
But I empathize with those that bought more than 1 kite, they almost certainly had to use real money to get them in one way or another. To tell them that each extra kite is worth 2% of what they thought was being purchased is despicable, even if the game Terms & Conditions say it is in their right.
The only balance I see being upset by returning the WWC coins or gold is the balance of what is right and what is easy.
Being hypothetical here, but if we were both in a mission, you with your 50% kite and me with my 25% kite and we battled it out to a draw, hypothetical 100 eggs each - I'd get 125% but you would get 150%. Thats not exactly fair is it?
This unfairness has completely ruined the game for me and probably plenty of others in the same situation.
What is the point in even taking part anymore when we will never stand an equal chance?
I do so empathize with having to start with 25% and increase from there - the entire manner in which this is being handled is dreadful for all of us.
i don't even have a kite on my farm, but if they do this what else might they do?
Sorry that's not what they're offering here - it's ONE kite at 25% when you buy your first one.
You can then purchase additional kites that are worth 1% each adding to the value of your first kite.
You won't be required to display the additional kites though, just the one.
They've not mentioned how much the additional 1% kites will cost each - that will be interesting.
Also, there is a maximum you can upgrade the kite to 100%.
The 50% kite allowance is being given to players who had purchased them back when they were originally sold.
Right - so I get my 25% kite but have to play againet others with a 50% kite - I am going to get well and truly beat in everything - here's what I mean.
I decide to remain competitive in cc's I need 50% boosters from kites. To do that I have to buy another 25 kites at 1%. Each kite is 2x2 (correct me if I'm wrong there as thats a guess - not a fact) so thats 4 squares taken up for each kite. 4 x 25 = 100 squares now used up on kites. What else could I fit in 100 squares? 4 tropical/candy cowsheds, which at lvl. 9 on premium feed and a lvl5 book = 830 milk each x 4 = 3320 milk each harvest. Or, housing, std red roof houses are also 5 x 5, so 4 of those at lvl 8 - each one holds 45 workers, so x 4 = 180 workers.
That means there is no way our production can ever match the production of someone that owns a 50% kite.
That in turn means we cant keep up with : Weekly events, speed runs, earning dollars for upgrades (inc. our fishing fleet), events like the Oktoberfest, the Village Fair, in fact short of the hunting events there is not one element left where non 50% kite owners can remain competitive - even the Island farms are affected as they take so many dollars in the first place.
If a 50% kite owner doesn't use the space for production buildings (goodness knows why they wouldn't but lets assume it anyway!) and goes for deco's instead. 100 squares, or 4 5x5 deco's. Its not unreasonable to say they are all 100 happiness each by the time they have been upgraded, or even 50 happiness each if left standard. Thats 400 happiness, or at worst 200 making the 50% kite owners farms much more profitable.
All I'm suggesting is that they give everyone the chance to get 1 50% kite - keep it fair - otherwise, absolutely honestly there is no reason left for the non 50% kite owners to carry on playing - knowing we will always be at a major disadvantage. Why would anyone keep trying - the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
We can never, ever be on a level playing field. So, GGS has effectively made the game pointless for a whole load of players.
The only true issue here is the change being made to kites originally purchased which has totally devalued them for the actual money spent... Those purchasers should be and are very very upset...
but you and I, we really have no complaint unless you started complaining when they first came out...maybe you weren't here then? if not, I am sure you heard about them at some point... I knew they were there, I never got enough coins to get one and was not willing to spend that much gold to get one... and I did not complain... it has not spoiled my enjoyment of the game because others have them!
IMHO
According to the plan they've laid out so far:
You only need ONE kite actually placed on any of your farms - you could place it on your flower farm if you wish, and you will still get the initial 25% boost. The kite is indeed 2 x 2.
That ONE kite is upgradeable. You do not have to place the 1% upgrades that you buy on your farms. You'll continue to have the production, and happiness space you need.
If you're concerned with having further boosters to compete with those who already have their kites at 50%, you could save as much farm dollars as you can, and buy personal boosters when the cooperative championship is running. You could also use some spins on the Wheel to gain some further rep., or you could play the Shinkei-Suijaku School a bit to gain more there.
Now about 'We can never, ever be on a level playing field' - quite true, even without kites!
Some have more cows than you, others have fewer. Some have Mayan library books, others do not.
If everyone had identical farms, with identical productions - well we'd just tie every match and be bored to tears.
Incompetent programmers and competent thieves
Exactly, and they know it and won't do it
GGS won't do it because they are not interested in players who have been playing long enough and have already been caught in their last thefts, they are after new players who will fall into new tricks
Giving back the tokens is not an option because it causes inflation (which is not true btw, I bet those players would use the tokens to upgrade their kites and get close to where they were before this mess). Giving back gold should not induce inflation, better yet give us back our money and we are even, you GGS keep your stinking kites and .... them and we get to spend our money playing some other game, a decent and honest one
There are simple solutions which would be fair to all players, but GGS is not looking at the situation from the players' perspectives, they are looking from their own perspective for possible new sources of income
Ha, thanks anyway...if you are going to limit the amount of kites/boost, a person can have, you should make the dang things a 1 x 1 size, or up the percent from 1 to at least 2.
I never complained about anyone having multiple 50% kites, I didn't think much of it. I chose to do other things with my WWC coins. But your plan of a 2 x 2, 1% kite with a limit of 100% is absurd!!!
They say we'll have to place only the ONE kite on a farm to get the boost - and that one kite will be upgradeable up to 100%. So there won't be a need to have a kite farm.
The other 1% kites purchased to increase the boost don't have to be placed on the farm at all.
But I just realized, that means players who buy the new 25% kite will have to buy and store up to 75 more kites somewhere in order to upgrade the initial kite to its full 100%!
Whereas players with existing kites will only have to store up to 50.
Good grief that's a lot of inventory space wasted!
GGS - you've got to re-think this.
Make me want one GGS, you are failing miserably...they do not sound very worthwhile.
Pure speculation, but the mechanics are already in game.
I stress again, I will ONLY be submitting the article AFTER GGS takes our purchased kites away with no reasonable compensation.
I feel this will be quite a newsworthy move on their part. I've not heard of any other games blatantly removing items of such value from their players. I'd like players of other games to know GGS has set a precedent so they should be cautious too. Often, when one company gets away with things like this, other companies sadly follow.
I also wish I didn't feel I have to do this - but sometimes, you have to do things outside of your comfort zone.
You may be thinking, 'Sheila ,let it go already!' I tried! I can't tell you how much I wish I could!
It's just too much money to take from me for me to just roll over.
I won't put myself in a position like this again. Not buying any more gold will at least give me the peace of mind that if they 'rebalance' any further - it will not affect me quite as much as this will.
Edited to add: I hate not being willing to get the subscription packages - they look awesome!
If this whole 'kite' fiasco wasn't happening - I definitely would have gotten them! I miss buying gold too!
Still love the game, love the people I've met both in the game, and in the forum here.
2+ years of faithful playing, I'm still hopeful that this is the last time a stunt like this is pulled.
Peace & well wishes to all my fellow players
Then they can decide what to do with their gold, based on the new rules within the game.
And do not say it will unbalance the game...that is bulls.... If I decide to buy gold for 300 euro's, you do not call that unbalance now, do you? You eat of gold buyers!!!
This will level the playing field and as far as kites are concerned, everyone will start from scratch.
I have no kites and I do not care about them either. But you cannot continue to rip off your customers this way or it will be the beginning of the end.