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Jetty Information Request
Southern (US1)
US1 Posts: 3,268
To give the Co-Ops a more thorough understanding of the Jetty, I would like to compile some information regarding what repairs AND rewards there are for each level of the Jetty.
CrazyBigFarm has some information, such as the number of Co-Op Rewards that are given for each level, but not the maximum number of personal rewards that can be received, or what quantity and materials are required to repair the boat each time he comes back for repair.
If it were possible, could I please ask folks that have Level 2, 3, 4 (or higher) Jettys for the following information?
a) The (3) repair windows, to give me an idea of what he asks for at each level, and how many.
b) An example Co-Op Rewards box (showing both the type & quantity of each reward), and
c) An example Personal Rewards box showing how many (and of what type of) Personal Rewards are received?
I'd really appreciate it.
Please ensure that you post exactly what Level Jetty your Co-Op has.
For instance:
LEVEL 1 OVERVIEW:
LEVEL 1 CO-OP SUPPLY BOX:
LEVEL 1 PERSONAL REWARDS:
LEVEL 1 HULL REPAIR:
LEVEL 1 STOWAGE REPAIR:
LEVEL 1 CABIN REPAIR:
Once the information is compiled, I'll pass it along to CrazyBigFarm so that Co-Ops can hopefully get more of a sense of whether the upgrade is "worth it" in terms of added time and material in regards to the rewards received, since there's "no way back" once you upgrade.
Comments
Personal Supply Box
Hull
Stoage
Cabin
So a quick comparison would show that there's 4 Co-Op Rewards (which we already knew, based on information listed on CrazyBigFarm), *20* Personal Rewards (up from 16 on a Level 1), and the addition of Rubber Latex as a repair material.
Oddly, your *amounts* of materials needed for repair seem to be *less* than that of a Level 1 - upwards of around 50% less, by the looks of it. I thought this was supposed to go in the *opposite* direction, with repairs costing 50 *more*.. Interesting.
Anyone else with a Level 2 Jetty want to confirm that Val's repair amounts are similar to what you're seeing on your Level 2 repairs (assuming your Co-Op fully repairs the boat each cycle)?
Still trying to compile a list of information regarding the Jetty.
One thing interesting though, if your Jetty is level 3, why did it only return 20 personal rewards? That's what a Level 2 Jetty gives (at 100% Friendship).
Also, based on your Co-Op Rewards, that too looks like a Level 2 Jetty, which was repaired in "Record Time" (under an hour) and given a bonus.
I can't believe there's no difference in the personal rewards between a Level 2 and a Level 3 Jetty. Hmm..
On the flip side, it seems like the amounts of most repair materials are reduced from the Level 1 Jetty - so that's definitely a change; it used to be that upgrading cost 50% more materials to repair.
All in all, great data, look forward to more! more! Gotta have it! *Salivates*
I still don't understand why the number of personal rewards from a Level 2 and a Level 3 Jetty appear to be the same (20 rewards), but perhaps with more info from others we can start to figure that out.
Quantities to reach 100% Friendship with those items aren't that important, but the items themselves could be illuminating.
For instance, I know at Level 1, It only takes 120 Apple Turnovers to go from 0% to 100% friendship, or 182 Bonito Tacos, or 5 Cookies.. I don't even know what items he asks for on the Level 2+ Jettys though.
Hope this is what you are looking for
I also forgot to mention that most of the village produce asked for is from the T&T and it needs to be at least level 25.
Personal Rewards amounts seem to be all over the place. I see 20 from @Val C (GB1) (Level 2), 20 from @Meppi16 (SKN1) (Level 3), 18 from @Jenny 1 (AU1) (Level 2) and 19 from @CrazyBigfarm55 (US1) (Level 4).
Also, repair material amounts between ValC and Jenny are vastly different, even though both only show 1 light.
These discontinuities are extremely frustrating. Compiling this information may be harder than I thought.
Our boat is level 2 and totally repaired.
First window requires:
raisins 133
bamboo: 4102
poplar 1052
oak 641
rubber 411
Second window requires:
nails 350
willow 1942
rubber 350
rope 46
raisins 113
Third windows require:
rubber 352
poplar 902
spruce 2345
nails 352
bamboo 3518
Shared supplied box:
normal passion fruit seed 1
normal pinaple seeds 1
rapaseeds 1
bussines cards 10
Personal box:
special gooseberry seeds 3
big lucky charm 2
special elderberry seeds 3
greenhouse humus 3
seaweed greenhouse humus 1
spetial humus (orange) 1
premium humus 2
mystery box 1
spetial cloudberry seeds 2
Writing it out is just fine, it's all going into a spreadsheet anyway (once I get enough data)
I see 18 Personal Rewards in your box as well, which agrees with Jenny's numbers. Repair materials in both are slightly higher than a Level 1 Jetty, which is what I would expect. Val C's numbers are what are confusing me, as they're HALF what the other Level 2 Jettys repair numbers are in this thread. I can't figure out why the large discrepancy.
At any rate, I've almost got enough info to start working out an average amount of repair materials for a Level 2 Jetty, although more data from other people with Level 2 Jettys would still be greatly appreciated.
Maybe the ammounts have to do something with the number of members?
Its 26 of us and coop can accomodate 41 members total.
In other words the items needed for repairs will be the same for all co-ops depending on the level of the jetty, but the amounts will be higher for big co-ops and less for small co-ops.
The amount of bags given in the jetty's supply box will be the same for all co-ops big or small depending on the jetty's level.
The type and amount of bribe items to increase your friendship meter will be the same for all co-ops big or small depending on the jetty's level.
The amount of items in your personal supply box depends on how high you get your friendship meter, meaning how many bags with a +1 you can get in your friendship supply box.
edit by me to clarify my last statement
When I said amount of items in your personal supply box I was referring to the totals of each item, like 1 2 or 3
If this is the case then, and if it's of any help to Southern, when I took our screenshots of our level 2 jetty I believe there were only 8 of us, down to 7 now. And, I don't know if this is relevant but my personal village happiness is very high.
Now if the boat was to return gold, that would be more tempting. Perhaps GGS should consider having the captain find gold on his adventures. :-)
Yep, *that* I knew - but surely everyone maxes the meter to ensure the maximum number of Personal Rewards, don't they? (I know, I know, don't call you Shirley)..
If the amount of repair materials is indeed influenced by the number of members, then making these type of calculations from a reverse-engineering standpoint and direct comparisons will be neigh but impossible - but it would certainly explain the disparity that I'm seeing from Val C's numbers.
I'll take what I have now, though, and see if I can brainstorm a little more.
Well, that's what I'm trying to determine; whether it's worth the time, effort and materials to upgrade the boat and continue to repair it for an extra couple of rewards. The effort is proving difficult, however, as I'm getting numbers that vary wildly, even from Co-Ops that have Jettys of the same level. This tells me that the size of the Co-Op may be a contributing factor, but we'll probably need confirmation from the Devs to know one way or the other for sure.
From what I've READ (here on the forum), including replies from Wabbit, the Jetty is not *supposed* to revert from a Level 2 boat back to a Level 1 boat except in appearance; IE., it may LOOK like a Level 1 boat, but the Jetty itself is still Level 2 (and should still ask for 2nd Level Repair materials). Several people have indeed reported that their Jetty had fully regressed back to Level 1 though, requiring a full upgrade cycle through the Upgrade Menu to get it back to Level 2. Again, from what I understand, that's not supposed to happen, and may be a bug that needs to be fixed - but will again take confirmation from someone higher up the food chain.
REPAIR INFO: (This is a pretty typical repair that asks for a lot of "rubber and oak". There are other repair requests that have asked for as much as 11k+ "bamboo" across all three repair areas. I have seen as much as 7k "willow" asked for across all three.)
edit: added another day of repairs, this one asked for a good bit of bamboo but not the most I have seen, add ~1k bamboo to what you see in each box here (+3k bamboo total), that's the worst I've seen so far.edit: added a third day of repair info and sixth day of reward info, this will be my last edit unless more info is requested.
It took 173 muffins to get the full reward at level 2, I wasn't able to donate any other product this time because my team beat me to it (that's alright I donate a lot)
Did you notice an increase or decrease in amount needed right after upgrading to level 2?