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Deep sea fishing question

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  • SuzyQ22 (US1)SuzyQ22 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,475
    I think it's the luck of your ticker tape!
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    What is up with the fishing region? I haven't had a swordfish,salmon, and cod area in days now. Its all tuna and herring with lots of lobster and a couple of shrimp, clam. oyster spots. 

    I can't finish some of the market orders or the daily tasks without swordfish, salmon, and cod. Is this a glitch?
    with the FHWE coming up, be thankful for those oyster pools. I was able to fish a few, but they've now dried up.
  • If you mean its there when I am not on, I thought of that but when the spots come up they are there for 24 hrs and it has been 3 days since anything other than tuna/herring has shown up.
  • It just cycles that way sometimes
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    If able empty a pool or 2 as quick as you can, get a new pool sooner. You may get lucky with your 25% chance of getting a selected pool of certain fish.
     Depending on your time zone the FHW starts around midnight GGS time July 4th.

    Happy Independence Day USA 
  • Thanks to all for the replies. When I logged back in just now I found I have one pool just started of swordfish etc.... 

    I did try using all of one pool up but I kept getting more pools of the same. Oh well. It is all good now. 

    HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY USA!    B)
  • I have been on a tuna, and lobster bend lately, yesterday 5 tuna pools and one swordfish, last week it was shellfish and lobster, one day was 4 shellfish and 2 lobster.  It seems like the evening out of the pools is just getting worse, on the last FHWE I didn't have shellfish pools until the day after it started, guess it will be the same this time
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    I've already started to not unload boats. By the time FHWE starts, I shall have 14 boats full sitting at the dock. ( I also use some fishing equipment so that most of the boats will only hold one type of fish)  It does help  :¬)
  • Why is it that I only don't seem to get shellfish right before the Fishing Hard worker event?
    Most of the time I either have shellfish or just had shellfish, but let a FHWE come along and for days there are not shellfish.

    Is it a glitch? It is not happening with lower fishing/game levels. This is the 3rd or 4th time in a row we have started with no access to shellfish. And the other player at my level also has not seen shellfish for 2 days. Something is not right. Please look at it. It is hardly fair to ALWAYS NOT give us the fish we need to start the event.

    (Of course in your defense, I will say that I had a tiny little 90 shellfish pool. It was like a sip in a desert. - but I can hardly say I will be able to start, it will throw me very behind right from the beginning, through no fault of my own) 

    I spent gold last time when you did this to me, but not this time - in fact, never again. If your are unfairly selecting against my level, I will not make up for it by spending gold. Why should I encourage you?
  • SuzyQ22 (US1)SuzyQ22 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,475
    Sorry that is happening to you.  I have had a few and am ready for the game to start.
  • garybaldy (GB1)garybaldy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 502
    It is down to luck, I've had good run ups to FHWE and bad ones , the more you fish, the better your chances, but you won't win every time.... hoping the fish are biting for everyone, cos this time I'm not getting them   :'(  :'(
  • bulubla (INT1)bulubla (INT1) INT1 Posts: 99
    Looks like we're going to be ripped off again with a late starting FHWE, but we can count on it finishing on time, it seems like it's all about using GOLD to have any chance of getting GML.
    OH McGOO YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Looks like we're going to be ripped off again with a late starting FHWE, but we can count on it finishing on time, it seems like it's all about using GOLD to have any chance of getting GML.
    OH McGOO YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN
    The last few times it's started at 3 am US server time (10 am GGS time), so we'll see. :)
  • Thank you to whomever. Shortly after I explained what was going on, a shellfish pool opened on both my fishing region and the other high level player in our coop! YAY!! Sincerely appreciated! we at least got to start the event. This is just a thank you - please, no further comments on it needed :))
  • dpbplue (US1)dpbplue (US1) US1 Posts: 15

    Many times the fish reports show a loss of much more than ANY pool loss show !

    Is the report bad or it is a bug in calculating the loss? The shown report has 34% loss !! It should be impossible!

    It happens every day !!

  • DebRN (US1)DebRN (US1) US1 Posts: 697
    WOW.. I've never had a loss like THAT!  I also make generic chum from lobster and always have chum in production.  It really helps w/ Fishing XP.  I also sell it off when I want to do a big upgrade or something.  Cash in the bank!  I can make millions every week fishing. It takes quite a while to get good at putting it all together so as not to waste equipment or money to get the most profit from each boat, but once you do...  the money just rolls in! 
  • This morning I had two boats that showed, what I call, an excessive loss.  One was a motorboat, loaded for 20 fish, ost 5 fish and brought in 15 because of octopus.  The pool was a 5% loss.  the other one was a werry , loaded for 70 fish, lost 13 brought in 57, also because of octopus, and also a 5% loss pool.  I guess I don;t understand the loss factor, 5% of 20 is 1 and 5% of 70 is 3.5, where are all the other losses coming from, do they load up the octopus so I got hit with 5 of them?  I often get loses like that with several dangers and they add up, but when you only get one danger?  where does the 5% come in?
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    This morning I had two boats that showed, what I call, an excessive loss.  One was a motorboat, loaded for 20 fish, ost 5 fish and brought in 15 because of octopus.  The pool was a 5% loss.  the other one was a werry , loaded for 70 fish, lost 13 brought in 57, also because of octopus, and also a 5% loss pool.  I guess I don;t understand the loss factor, 5% of 20 is 1 and 5% of 70 is 3.5, where are all the other losses coming from, do they load up the octopus so I got hit with 5 of them?  I often get loses like that with several dangers and they add up, but when you only get one danger?  where does the 5% come in?
    Carefully look at your motor boat, if you do not have enough crew to bring in the max the boat can hold then it won't regard less of % of loss. Depending on how you load your boats to sent them out can make all the difference.
     As you are able to get better/bigger ships the loss won't seem as much because you are able to bring in more fish at once.

    Personally I just use Fish Caught Per Hour & Travel Speed crews in all my ships
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    edited 01.10.2018

    Many times the fish reports show a loss of much more than ANY pool loss show !

    Is the report bad or it is a bug in calculating the loss? The shown report has 34% loss !! It should be impossible!

    It happens every day !!


    @dpbplue (US1)

    There are 5 different hazards. You can be hit by 1 of them, 2 of them, or ALL of them. The % chance that is listed is the chance of getting hit by each one of the hazards.

    So if you're fishing the top right pool for instance, which has a 20% chance of getting hit by each hazard, that means you have a:

    20% chance of getting hit by a whirlpool.
    20% chance of getting hit by a Storm
    20% chance of getting eaten by a shark.
    20% chance of getting hit by an iceberg.
    20% chance of encountering an Octopus.

    That doesn't mean you have a 100% chance of getting hit by SOMETHING, as probabilities don't work that way.. But chances are you're going to be hit by at least 1 or 2 of those hazards, on average, every trip.

    By contrast, the chances of getting hit by a hazard in the 2% chance pool is extremely low.

    If you DO get hit by a hazard though, the number of fish you lose is pretty much random. In my testing I've seen anything from a 10% loss from 1 hazard to a 25% loss from 1 hazard.  There might be a formula for it, but to my knowledge GGS hasn't told us what it is. is around 10%.  See my post later in this thread with WascallyWabbit for the details.

    At any rate, the number you're seeing on the pools (17%, 20%, 14%, whatever) is the chance of getting hit by each of the hazards, has nothing to do with how many fish you lose if you DO get hit by a hazard.

    --------------------------

    Personally, I don't bother with the protection items. If I lose fish, so be it.  I fill up by Level 6 Trawlers with nothing but Brigittes & Roys; enough Brigettes to cancel out the Travel Time, and then enough Roys to fish up however many fish are in that spot.  Each trawler comes back in 2 hours & 45 minutes that way, full to the brim of 195 fish each, minus any lost to hazards.

    It works pretty well, IMO.





    Post edited by Southern (US1) on
  • One of the things I have noticed constantly is that when someone puts a ghost rod on a ship that always means a big loss, in the end you would have been better off not having the boost..
    I do know simple math and how to load boats, so that is not the problem, I don't  have the time to figure out what time of day it is better, but the overnight fishing is totally useless, it has the most losses making it not worthwhile at all.  I do keep the motor boats for now because they are good on the small shellfish pools and I can't get trawlers yet or upgrade my skipjacks until I get to a higher level.  I like to be analytical about things but the problem with this game is that there are too many secret variables to figure out anything.  
  • I cannot go fishing on any of my farms when I click on the fishing rod to go fishing it takes me to the tackle section

  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770

    I cannot go fishing on any of my farms when I click on the fishing rod to go fishing it takes me to the tackle section

    @Bigcass60 (US1)    Do you have the tackle needed to go fishing?
  • archerbob (AU1)archerbob (AU1) AU1 Posts: 531
    When is the next Fishing HWE?
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    edited 29.09.2018
    @WascallyWabbit

    Ok, time to break out the Algebra book and answer this once and for all. :)

    I never really cared before, so never looked into it that closely, but I think I can explain the "strange rounding errors".



    176 + 19 = 195 total fish.

    1 hazard

    Hazard 1: 195*10% = 19.5 (rounded down to 19) = 176 Fish caught, 19 lost.



    74 + 17 = 91 total fish.

    2 Hazards

    Hazard 1: 91 * 10% = 9.1 Fish lost (rounded down to 9). That leaves 82 fish
    Hazard 2: 82 * 10% = 8.2 Fish lost (rounded down to 8). That leaves 74 fish.

    Total Lost: 9+8 = 17

    Looks like they're applying each hazard separately & sequentially instead of simultaneously.



    86 + 19 = 105 Fish

    Hazard 1 = 105 * 10% = 10.5 Fish lost (Rounded down to 10). Fish remaining = 95
    Hazard 2 = 95 * 10% = 9.5 Fish lost (Rounded down to 9). Fish remaining = 86
    Total Fish Lost: 10+9 = 19

    Yep, that would be my guess.

    Let's try another:



    25 + 9 = 34 Total Fish, 3 hazards

    Hazard 1: 34 * 10% = 3.4 Fish Lost, rounded down to 3. 31 Fish left.
    Hazard 2: 31 * 10% = 3.1 Fish Lost, rounded down to 3. 28 Fish left.
    Hazard 3: 28 * 10% = 2.8 Fish Lost, rounded UP to 3. 25 Fish left.
    So that still works.

    That's why I was seeing such weird numbers then, I was thinking the loss was being applied simultaneously instead of sequentially. But it makes perfect sense now. 
  • edited 29.09.2018
    Southern (US1) said:

    If you DO get hit by a hazard though, the number of fish you lose is pretty much random. In my testing I've seen anything from a 10% loss from 1 hazard to a 25% loss from 1 hazard.  There might be a formula for it, but to my knowledge GGS hasn't told us what it is. 
    @Southern (US1)

    You should lose 10% per hazard, so if you were really unlucky & got hit by all 5 hazards, you could lose 50% of your fish. If you hover over the number of fish deducted, it will tell you how many hazards you were hit by. 

    These 2 boats both caught the max 195 fish:
    The 1st one 3x65 fish, was hit by 2 hazards;  6.5 (10%) rounded down to 6,  2x6=12, so 12 of each type of fish was lost.
    The 2nd one 1x195 fish, hit by 1 hazard; 19.5 (10%) rounded down to 19, so 19 fish lost.






    EDIT: @Southern (US1) LOL You are too quick!!  - I spotted a fatal error in my calculations (that the total catch was not shown) and rewrote the post, but you got there in between lol

    However, you did solve the mystery of that one with the 74 & 17, I never thought of doing each one separately, good thinking!

    I agree this one can be put to bed now :)

    PS. Though I would say on that last one, it would make more sense to hit an iceberg during a storm with a whirlwind, than to survive the 1st 2 hazards & then randomly crash into an iceberg hehe :p
    Post edited by WascallyWabbit (FormerMod) on
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Southern (US1) said:

    If you DO get hit by a hazard though, the number of fish you lose is pretty much random. In my testing I've seen anything from a 10% loss from 1 hazard to a 25% loss from 1 hazard.  There might be a formula for it, but to my knowledge GGS hasn't told us what it is. 

    EDIT: @Southern (US1) LOL You are too quick!!  - I spotted a fatal error in my calculations (that the total catch was not shown) and rewrote the post, but you got there in between lol

    However, you did solve the mystery of that one with the 74 & 17, I never thought of doing each one separately, good thinking!

    I agree this one can be put to bed now :)

    @WascallyWabbit And here I thought I was developing E.S.P. or something, answering questions before they've even been asked! :)

    There may still be some unforseen rounding issues, but I think this is close enough for government work, as they say. Gotta live up to my Number Cruncher title. :)
  • hogman (US1)hogman (US1) US1 Posts: 13
    i sent an email to support about the fishing region pools not repopulating or a different variety of fish.  the next day I got a variety and pools repopulated.  try support and see if it makes a difference for you.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 09.10.2018
    i sent an email to support about the fishing region pools not repopulating or a different variety of fish.  the next day I got a variety and pools repopulated.  try support and see if it makes a difference for you.
          @hogman (US1)   The fishing pools appear at random, so your getting a variety right after e-mailing Support is purely coincidence.  Please don't bombard Support with complaints of no variety, they are well aware of it already. ;)
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    i sent an email to support about the fishing region pools not repopulating or a different variety of fish.  the next day I got a variety and pools repopulated.  try support and see if it makes a difference for you.
          @hogman (US1)   The fishing pools appear at random, so your getting a variety right after e-mailing Support is purely coincidence.  Please don't bombard Support with complaints of no variety, they are well aware of it already. ;)
    And people wonder why support can take a long time to get to them. I contact them only if something is absolutely dire.
  • Caught fish are not being credited as of today.  I am using Chrome browser with Flash version.  Any suggestions?
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