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Update Nov 30th - Christmas Reloaded! - Discussion

WascallyWabbit (FormerMod)WascallyWabbit (FormerMod) Posts: 6,097
edited 29.11.2017 in Discussion Corner for the official announcements


Hey Guys,

Have fun discussing the Latest Update here.


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  • apoorva106 (IN1)apoorva106 (IN1) Posts: 26
    @WascallyWabbit

    what if some people are inactive during the whole event? will the coop be able to complete the chapter?
    also, what if they start their orders but don't fulfill it?
  • sally456 (US1)sally456 (US1) Posts: 196
    Does it matter if we boot the not very active players during the event, or is it need before it starts?  
    Thanks
  • sally456 (US1)sally456 (US1) Posts: 196

    "Info regarding members who join or leave a cooperative during the event:

    • If a member doesn’t start their task (first harvest), they’re considered inactive. This will change as soon as they harvest a product for the task/chapter."


    Does this mean that if a player is totally inactive, the coop can still finish all the tasks?  Or will be be held to phase 2? 
  • sally456 (US1)sally456 (US1) Posts: 196
    "If a cooperative loses or expels a member during phase 1 (harvesting), it will also lose all that member’s progress and inherent VHP and FHP. The member loses all the progress from the current chapter but keeps the decorations from earlier chapters (if they leave after chapter 1)."

    So what happens to the coop, if someone who comes back for a moment midway and because they can't catch up to the rest of us, we boot them out of the coop?  Is the coop stuck because said member didn't/couldn't finish the first 4 chapters even if they are out of the coop or does this save the coop for those who have worked to get this done?
  • CuddlyFoxes (FormerMod)CuddlyFoxes (FormerMod) Posts: 845
    apoorva106 (IN1) said:
    @WascallyWabbit

    what if some people are inactive during the whole event? will the coop be able to complete the chapter?
    also, what if they start their orders but don't fulfill it?
    @apoorva106 (IN1) As long as every order that has been started gets completed, the cooperative will move on to the next chapter. If someone starts an order but is unable to complete it, other co-op members can start helping them once they complete their own list.
    sally456 (US1) said:
    Does it matter if we boot the not very active players during the event, or is it need before it starts?  
    Thanks

    sally456 (US1) said:

    "Info regarding members who join or leave a cooperative during the event:

    • If a member doesn’t start their task (first harvest), they’re considered inactive. This will change as soon as they harvest a product for the task/chapter."


    Does this mean that if a player is totally inactive, the coop can still finish all the tasks?  Or will be be held to phase 2? 
    @sally456 (US1) That would be up to each cooperative to decide if they want to remove less active members or not. If someone can't complete their order other co-op members will be able to help them in phase 2. As soon as a harvest is made towards an order, the order will have to be completed to move onto the next chapter.
  • LilFarm (US1)LilFarm (US1) US1 Posts: 31
    CuddlyFoxes said:.
    @sally456 (US1) That would be up to each cooperative to decide if they want to remove less active members or not. If someone can't complete their order other co-op members will be able to help them in phase 2. As soon as a harvest is made towards an order, the order will have to be completed to move onto the next chapter.
    @CuddlyFoxes will you clarify please.  Last year, we had Chapter 2 completed with 8 hours to go.  One of our players logged on shortly before it reset (like 30 minutes).  He was the only one online and we were bumped back to Phase 2 but he couldn't complete his order.  However when Chapter 3 started, we effectively lost out on completing Chapter 2, since the 4 days to complete that chapter had expired.

    Are you saying the logic has changed so that we'd instead use chapter 3 time to finish 2 before we could begin on chapter 3?
  • CuddlyFoxes (FormerMod)CuddlyFoxes (FormerMod) Posts: 845
    LilFarm (US1) said:
    CuddlyFoxes said:.
    @sally456 (US1) That would be up to each cooperative to decide if they want to remove less active members or not. If someone can't complete their order other co-op members will be able to help them in phase 2. As soon as a harvest is made towards an order, the order will have to be completed to move onto the next chapter.
    @CuddlyFoxes will you clarify please.  Last year, we had Chapter 2 completed with 8 hours to go.  One of our players logged on shortly before it reset (like 30 minutes).  He was the only one online and we were bumped back to Phase 2 but he couldn't complete his order.  However when Chapter 3 started, we effectively lost out on completing Chapter 2, since the 4 days to complete that chapter had expired.

    Are you saying the logic has changed so that we'd instead use chapter 3 time to finish 2 before we could begin on chapter 3?
    @LilFarm (US1) It will be the same way as last year. Each chapter will last 6 days before changing to the next chapter. Every order that has been started will have to be completed 100% or the co-op will not move onto the next chapter.
  • Chicaa (US1)Chicaa (US1) Posts: 87
    I too agree with FarmerCli about booting/new members leaving & coming aboard during this event.  I wasn't here for last years event.. but I imagine this event will run for a good bulk of the month.

    What about the coops that NEED to actively be searching for new talent?  I've also been actively recruiting.. so by closing my coop to new members during this lengthy event will mean that our team will loose out on getting the members we so desperately need to make our coop better.  I understand that there has to be rules regarding farmers leaving/coming.. but I feel this is going to be a disaster for smaller coops.

    Of course the coops with 50+ members won't have to worry as they have more than enough help, however us smaller coops always seem to not be built into the equation when these "team" event rules are put into action with new events.

    I wish GGS would make this & future coop events fair across the board.  That way a coop of 10 or a coop of 75 can have an even chance on finishing the event. 

    Is it possible to just avoid this event all together??
  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    Chicaa (US1) said:
    I too agree with FarmerCli about booting/new members leaving & coming aboard during this event.  I wasn't here for last years event.. but I imagine this event will run for a good bulk of the month.

    What about the coops that NEED to actively be searching for new talent?  I've also been actively recruiting.. so by closing my coop to new members during this lengthy event will mean that our team will loose out on getting the members we so desperately need to make our coop better.  I understand that there has to be rules regarding farmers leaving/coming.. but I feel this is going to be a disaster for smaller coops.

    Of course the coops with 50+ members won't have to worry as they have more than enough help, however us smaller coops always seem to not be built into the equation when these "team" event rules are put into action with new events.

    I wish GGS would make this & future coop events fair across the board.  That way a coop of 10 or a coop of 75 can have an even chance on finishing the event. 

    Is it possible to just avoid this event all together??
    This isnt so much of the size of the coop, but WORKING TOGETHER. u can have a coop with 100 people, that doesnt work together, and u can have a coop of 20, who does work together, which one is most likely to fail and win?
  • Big Beck (US1)Big Beck (US1) US1 Posts: 514
    apoorva106 (IN1) said:
    @WascallyWabbit

    what if some people are inactive during the whole event? will the coop be able to complete the chapter?
    also, what if they start their orders but don't fulfill it?
    it is my understanding from reading the announcement that all coop members must be active or the total rewards will not be available. 
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    Do we have a start time for the Festive Farm version of the Viking Farm?  Can it please not happen until after we have had a chance to use the "shorter times" that we get from the WW event.  If you start the Festive Farm tomorrow, for example, you nullify all of my hard work on the WW event.

    Can it also please be the normal 28 days?  They keep cutting the temp farms down to absurd lengths like 23 or 24 days, and this is simply unfair.
  • JAX (GB1)JAX (GB1) GB1 Posts: 30
    Can someone please tell me how long this event lasts for ?
  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 611
    Do you know if Santa will be requiring fish at all?

    Many of our co-op players are newer and have not opened the fishing area yet, and those who have done so find fishing takes a very long time.
     
  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    JAX (GB1) said:
    Can someone please tell me how long this event lasts for ?
    More or less the whole december.....Hence the name "Christmas"

    That ofcourse if u dont have christmas or knows when it is....
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Tinzen (SKN1) said:
    JAX (GB1) said:
    Can someone please tell me how long this event lasts for ?
    More or less the whole december.....Hence the name "Christmas"

    That ofcourse if u dont have christmas or knows when it is....
    "Christmas" in the title doesn't necessarily give us a definitive answer as to how long this particular event is.  And don't forget, some celebrate Christmas well into January. :)
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    Big Beck (US1) said:
    apoorva106 (IN1) said:
    @WascallyWabbit

    what if some people are inactive during the whole event? will the coop be able to complete the chapter?
    also, what if they start their orders but don't fulfill it?
    it is my understanding from reading the announcement that all coop members must be active or the total rewards will not be available. 
    All members do not have to be active.  However anyone who harvests even a single item on their list is considered active and the list must be completed either by that person or the coop.  Where it states: "If they already know that they won't be around for the week, they can skip the respective order. However, this also means that the final reward will not reach its full happiness potential", simply means that the more people that DO participate the higher the happiness COULD be. 
  • JAX (GB1)JAX (GB1) GB1 Posts: 30
    edited 29.11.2017
    Tinzen (SKN1) said:
    JAX (GB1) said:
    Can someone please tell me how long this event lasts for ?
    More or less the whole december.....Hence the name "Christmas"

    That ofcourse if u dont have christmas or knows when it is....
    Thank you Tinzen for your reply. For me Christmas is 12 days before the 25th Dec and 12 days after the 25th Dec, not the whole of December, that's why I asked. 
  • Betty Birken (US1)Betty Birken (US1) US1 Posts: 73
    @wascallywabbit So I guess if no other players on your team want to contribute (or can't get on to their farms) There's no point participating? no individual benefit for this?
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Southern (US1) said:
    LilFarm (US1) said:
    CuddlyFoxes said:.
    @sally456 (US1) That would be up to each cooperative to decide if they want to remove less active members or not. If someone can't complete their order other co-op members will be able to help them in phase 2. As soon as a harvest is made towards an order, the order will have to be completed to move onto the next chapter.
    @CuddlyFoxes will you clarify please.  Last year, we had Chapter 2 completed with 8 hours to go.  One of our players logged on shortly before it reset (like 30 minutes).  He was the only one online and we were bumped back to Phase 2 but he couldn't complete his order.  However when Chapter 3 started, we effectively lost out on completing Chapter 2, since the 4 days to complete that chapter had expired.

    Are you saying the logic has changed so that we'd instead use chapter 3 time to finish 2 before we could begin on chapter 3?
    That's the only beef I have with this event, is that someone can log in during the last 10 seconds of a "Chapter", start the event (throwing everyone back to Phase 2), and cause the entire Co-Op to lose out of both that weeks Deco and the Bonus (5th) Deco.

    I don't know WHY GGS fails to realize this is a problem. They apparently felt that someone joining an "Open Co-Op" during the last 10 seconds of the event was enough of a problem to fix, but not someone who only has time to log in once a week.

    Even a START button wouldn't help, if someone wanted to be vindictive.

    I just hate that GGS puts our Co-Op Leaders in the position of having to remove less active players strictly because of this event. Sure, we could do like Artful and just ignore it, but our members WANT these Decos.  Leaders have to balance the wants of the entire Co-Op.


    Oh, I hear you.  Don't get me wrong, we want those decos, too.  But the mechanics are seriously flawed and not conducive to harmonious team play.  And that's way we refuse to take part. Not worth it for the decos to us, no matter how much we like them. :(
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    artful (US1) said:
    Chicaa (US1) said:


    Is it possible to just avoid this event all together??
    Of course it is.  Our coop has never participated.  We just "farm around it" and do the other holiday things that interest our individual players.

    Any time someone has to boot members for the sake of an event might want to rethink what their coop means to them -- a well-oiled prize-winning machine, or a group of people who enjoy farming together.

    Totally agree Artful!  Sometimes one has to go back to basics and rethink how they really want to play this game.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    maxiroy (US1) said:
    artful (US1) said:
    Chicaa (US1) said:


    Is it possible to just avoid this event all together??
    Of course it is.  Our coop has never participated.  We just "farm around it" and do the other holiday things that interest our individual players.

    Any time someone has to boot members for the sake of an event might want to rethink what their coop means to them -- a well-oiled prize-winning machine, or a group of people who enjoy farming together.

    Totally agree Artful!  Sometimes one has to go back to basics and rethink how they really want to play this game.
    Amen.  It's so easy to lose focus when they keep dangling all the pretty shiny things in our faces.  
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