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Championship Coins

Hi everyone

Just curious - has anyone received any coins this week?  I'm so confused by this - I though we were supposed to get them weekly?  and that you got some based on your own performance and some based on the servers you belong to.  I've been in the top 10 for my level since it started and have a whopping 564 coins - and some of those (around 100) came from a spin on the wheel of fortune before I realised what that was all about!  Is anyone else struggling to understand how the coins work and when we get them?  Server is UK by the way, so I know there wont be a great deal coming from that.  Thanks for any replies.

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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    I got mine -- pitiful amount.
  • When did you get them Artful?  I need to put in a ticket I think
  • Mac56 (GB1)Mac56 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 353
    When did you get them Artful?  I need to put in a ticket I think

    I got mine yesterday and I am on the UK server - not a great amount either.
  • Hmmmm I didn't get any which doesn't seem right - ticket going in ...........  Thanks for your replies 
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    When did you get them Artful?  I need to put in a ticket I think
    Yesterday afternoon, I think.  Wasn't a huge amount.
  • I didn't get my coins this week nor did I get a mail with the server scores.  Did we all go on an extra vacation or something???   Plus there's some serious old bugs that haven't been fixed!!!!   Can we get some better customer care here???

    MAGNETIX

  • Ghost rider (GB1)Ghost rider (GB1) GB1 Posts: 294
    You don't get the first lot of coins till the 9th 
  • RowdyRac (FormerMod)RowdyRac (FormerMod) Guest Posts: 1,250
    As darren24 said, the Championship coins should go out tomorrow, and thereafter every Wednesday until the end of this WWC.
  • DebRN (US1)DebRN (US1) US1 Posts: 697
    Got no email w/ standings either.  No coins received by me.

  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    @DebRN (US1)  it is only Tuesday... we get coins on Wednesday :)
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    I got mine today, pitiful amount
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    yes, the amount is definitely pitiful :(   For the amount of work, very poor reward IMHO! :(
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    edited 10.01.2019
    They are just seeing players working hard like donkey and of course the reward for the donkey hard work should be the same well done 




    Edited to turn the volume down ||  Rowdy
    Post edited by RowdyRac (FormerMod) on
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Remember the coins stack from week to week though - so next week you'll get the same amount of coins PLUS whatever extra you earn from this week, the next week you'll get 3 weeks worth of coins, etcetera, etcetera.  They add up to a tidy sum at the end of the month.

    That said, I still don't like the fact that the amount of coins we receive is largely based on things outside of our control, server ranks.


  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    @Southern (US1) Thank you, this I did not know... that helps a bit  for  sure!  :)
  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 611
    How are the coin amounts figured?
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    How are the coin amounts figured?
    @GrammaLeah (US1)

    We don't know the exact formula (they haven't told us), but they're based on your total score (Master Points) and where your server appears in the weekly ranking.

    This is why your coins amounts increase every week, because they're based on your Master Score, and not a "Weekly" score. So as long as your server doesn't fall in the rankings from one week to the next, you should receive at least the same amount of coins every week, even if you completely stop harvesting (because your Master Score doesn't decrease).

    But as for a specific formula for determining the amount of coins, we'll probably never know.
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    Apparently the  point  system was reworked based on player comments. hmmmm, definitely not comments from me! As always be careful what you wish/comment for! IHMO
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    edited 06.02.2019
    @PicklePaws  @WascallyWabbit

    This leaves me somewhat confused.   If the new calculations are based on averages of farms that produce more than 5000 wwc points, ( the minimum 5,000 point per week value ) ...then why are recent week-1 scores showing countries with less than a 5000 point average??? 
    Does this mean a country's weekly score is still being averaged with farms that produce less than 5000 points??? :/

    EDITED:  added links to week1 scores of previous events with countries averaging less than 5k.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/3914304/#Comment_3914304

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/3981797/#Comment_3981797  

    Post edited by Seeker1 (US1) on
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    January, Week 1, Average Scores


    Can anyone explain to me what is the "minimum 5000 points per week value."
    Supposedly there was a vote to have this "value" included in how the average scores are calculated for each country... yet what I am missing here?   I see average scores under 5000. :/

  • grrr (NL1)grrr (NL1) NL1 Posts: 664
    edited 13.01.2019
    It's not really that complicated, I'll give an example with exaggerated numbers.
    Say you've got a server with 100 players, only 20 players score over 5000 points, say 10.000 points on average.
    That makes 20x 10.000= 200.000 points to be counted, the average score for that server would be 200.000 points divided by 100 players= 2000 points.

    EDIT: Edited to add, If only the average of players over 5000 points is counted and divided by the number of players who reached that, maybe nobody reached that? But that doesn't seem likely.
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    It's not really that complicated, I'll give an example with exaggerated numbers.
    Say you've got a server with 100 players, only 20 players score over 5000 points, say 10.000 points on average.
    That makes 20x 10.000= 200.000 points to be counted, the average score for that server would be 200.000 points divided by 100 players= 2000 points.

    EDIT: Edited to add, If only the average of players over 5000 points is counted and divided by the number of players who reached that, maybe nobody reached that? But that doesn't seem likely.
    Basically, from the 100 players example you've given, you're counting 80 players who have scored less than 5000 points as giving a score of zero points.   If this is the math formula/algorithm they're using, then the WWC event is easily exploited.   I can have every player in my country create an account on a different country server and score zero points and have their farm be added into the calculating formula/algorithm... which is why I'm guessing there was a vote to have the "5000 minimum points per week value" rule put into effect.

    My guess is they are simply not using the 5000 minimum, or the formal announcement they've given is outdated and they have updated or complicated the way they're calculating each country's averages.
    I'm sure the math geniuses would agree there are very complex methods to computing averages.
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    I think  the point system needs a rework... I at least doubled my master points and would have expected about double what I got in coins last week... but no that is not  the case... Last week 983 coins (thereabouts), this week I got about 1243 coins... Sorry, this does not compute for the work put into the event. IMHO!
  • DemonR (GB1)DemonR (GB1) GB1 Posts: 43
    JVD (US1) said:
    I think  the point system needs a rework... I at least doubled my master points and would have expected about double what I got in coins last week... but no that is not  the case... Last week 983 coins (thereabouts), this week I got about 1243 coins... Sorry, this does not compute for the work put into the event. IMHO!
    Totally agree, it makes no sense and it happens every time.
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    JVD (US1) said:
    I think  the point system needs a rework... I at least doubled my master points and would have expected about double what I got in coins last week... but no that is not  the case... Last week 983 coins (thereabouts), this week I got about 1243 coins... Sorry, this does not compute for the work put into the event. IMHO!
    We fell 2 places in the server standings (we were 12th the 1st week, 14th this week). This causes the coin amounts to fall, which I've kvetched about since the WWC first started.

    Additionally, the formula for awarding coins from week to week is not linear; the more points you get, the slower the amount of coins you earn will grow.

    I definitely agree with you though. I think that the amount of coins you receive should be based on YOUR effort, and not vary from server to server.  Imagine how few coins the people on the bottom servers get!
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    I cannot even begin to imagine what the peeps in the servers below us think of the points they get! It has got to be a joke... a sad one! :(
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 17.01.2019
    You guys complaining about small amount of WWC coins received for your work should try playing on small servers like the AU server, then you will know what pitiful amount of coins is about, I have done 300k in 2 weeks in WWC points and only got 2K of coins first 2 week added together. I am leading the way on my group, so most are only getting a fraction of this.  I hope I can keep lead at least I will get Grand house then (advantage of small server).  It will take most players on AU server at least year if they want 1 candy cow etc

    Even as 1 of the highest earners on AU server, I will only get 1 candy cow for over 700k points for the month, what would you get for 700k of points on larger servers?

     I have learnt to accept this as I know they will never fix it, I said when WWC first come out the WWC coins should not make a difference on where your server is placing, as the higher countries get other rewards at the end in addition.  Hard work for the  on different servers should pay the same.  It takes exactly the same work to earn those points no matter what server you are on.
    Post edited by Dark Underworld (AU1) on
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    edited 17.01.2019
    Hard work for the  on different servers should pay the same.  It takes exactly the same work to earn those points no matter what server you are on.
    That's been my argument all along as well.

    So far I've scored 206,000 Master Points, and the first week I collected 894 coins; today I received 1,144.  That's 2,038 coins total. Roughly the same as you, except I'm 100,000 Master Points behind you.  But because US1 scored higher than AU1, I get more coins than you do simply because of that - and no, it's not right (IMO).  I would really like to know how many coins someone on the Japan or Germany servers received for ~200k points. That would really put things into perspective.

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