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Update Oct 19th - Cooperative Hard Worker Event! - Discussion

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  • T.O.P (INT1)T.O.P (INT1) INT1 Posts: 247
    @PCA (GB1) As I said, a new database was added to the test server & though the old one has not been deleted, that does not mean that it will be put back at any time. As you pointed out, it was always made clear that data could disappear, so its probably best to assume that it won`t be back. - We never know what is happening with the test server until it happens, so I am sorry that I can`t tell you anything useful.

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The missing rewards for the CHWE will be credited with the next update (currently planned for Nov 1st).
    Can you please take a suggestion to the team?

    Test server.  Why not set it up by default so EVERYONE starts at say lvl 50.  Have it already built up with X number of upgraded cows, pigs, fields etc. All set up in the same positions. Everyone the same.  And save it that way so the next test that has to come out, reset the whole test server to go back to this saved form.

    This way people could actually "TEST" new stuff without suffering through the tutorial and early levels that take up SO much time just getting to a point where something only higher level farms can even test.

    I for one am out.  I'm NOT going through a tutorial every time.  And once I click the test server I have a heck of a time getting the thing to unstick.  I'm done unless this is fixed or at the very least give us an option to SKIP the tutorial.  Can't even log out once it starts tutorial mode.  It's just a pain.  And I wouldn't mind actually testing stuff. Just not starting a baby farm over and over and over for nothing.
    I believe this is the best way to do it. Then we could go right to the testing without wasting time building a farm that won't last.
    AGREE!!!!
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
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  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    @WascallyWabbit

    thank you Wabbit, testing this game is no longer part of my plans

    sorry to tag you again, but I would like to know if GGS is planning to share with us how they will make sure that players get their rewards

    For example in our case we did spend for 1 +10 hours cash and gold coop boosters for the first attempted coop HWE, which ended within a few minutes, and those boosters were wasted

    Regarding the second coop HWE  how will GGS  deliver the final co op rewards:

    will the players who left the coop after the end of HWE receive their hard earned prizes?

    I would appreciate that the above receives some attention 







  • @Artmaker (GB1) The tutorial does elevate you to somewhere around level 20, so its not like the one on a live server. - Its not likely that they will divert resources to working on the test server at the moment, while they have so many things needing attention, but a faster set up is needed, so maybe it will happen. :)

    @PCA (GB1) We haven`t been told about any compensations,  just the missing rewards being credited, but its on my list of things to check on Monday. - The CHWE that only lasted for a few minutes, did pay out the rewards for the end of the event, so that may have been taken as compensation, but I will check & also find out what happens to the rewards for members that have switched coops.
  • Benicia (AU1)Benicia (AU1) AU1 Posts: 63
    I have a co-op of hardworking, dedicated, generous players.  We expected a challenge in the co-op HWE but what we got instead is an event that has goals that cannot possibly be met.  I personally use gold, seaweed & special seeds, Boosters for all from co-op account, and have found that this challenge is too time consuming and overwhelming even for me!  Much too much gold needed, continually buying seaweed AND playing continuously ready to go to fill the next crate!   This is not a CHALLENGE, IT IS AN EVENT AIMED AT FAILURE!    (We all know who will win the top prizes & good for them!)    Now we are faced with the next co-op championship which will follow!  How about a break?   We need to replenish our resources and maybe get some sleep.  Love the game but disappointed & sad with the new HWE.  Will go back to my members and suggest we play only the events we choose and can afford.  Skip a few and just keep farming!      

    Couldn't agree with you more Scarlet Howl, soooo tired, it will be a case for me/us " one two miss and few" I use to come here for rest and relaxation, now I go to work for that.
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    edited 29.10.2017
    ...... The CHWE that only lasted for a few minutes, did pay out the rewards for the end of the event, so that may have been taken as compensation  ....
    I did not get any rewards or I would have the final reward in inventory.  All I did get .... was booted.

    My concern is about the second reset when the line-up of crates were reset.  I had Special Dandis with Super humus planted for the next crate in line and ended up not even getting Dandis at all the rest of the event.  The reset also changed the current item I was working on causing a loss in points as well as the loss in points to wait to start a completely different crop. When you are up to 8pps plus bonus points and the crate suddenly changes with no warning and is replaced with a completely different crop with no time to prepare it really takes it's toll on your score, especially if you take a break from the computer thinking you have X amount of time.  Two hours or so with no points rolling in is a HUGE setback. 

    I also want to mention, that when creating a new farm it is exactly the way it is currently on the test server. You get to level 19 within minutes now. It bothers me quite a bit that they wiped the old farms and everyone had to start from the very beginning with the tutorial and all. They give us VERY little gold and VERY little cash to even get it started and then they give several popups to buy gold.  I honestly believe it was nothing but a push for gold.  The sad part, I can tell by the specific deco given when buying gold that several people bought gold.  And for what?  to possibly have that account wiped too?  If GGS wants people to test new events and such, they really should at least make it MUCH easier if it is necessary to start over.  They should not be trying to sell gold at all on the test server. 
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  • ...... The CHWE that only lasted for a few minutes, did pay out the rewards for the end of the event, so that may have been taken as compensation  ....
    I did not get any rewards or I would have the final reward in inventory.  All I did get .... was booted.

    My concern is about the second reset when the line-up of crates were reset.  I had Special Dandis with Super humus planted for the next crate in line and ended up not even getting Dandis at all the rest of the event.  The reset also changed the current item I was working on causing a loss in points as well as the loss in points to wait to start a completely different crop. When you are up to 8pps plus bonus points and the crate suddenly changes with no warning and is replaced with a completely different crop with no time to prepare it really takes it's toll on your score, especially if you take a break from the computer thinking you have X amount of time.  Two hours or so with no points rolling in is a HUGE setback. 

    I also want to mention, that when creating a new farm it is exactly the way it is currently on the test server. You get to level 19 within minutes now. It bothers me quite a bit that they wiped the old farms and everyone had to start from the very beginning with the tutorial and all. They give us VERY little gold and VERY little cash to even get it started and then they give several popups to buy gold.  I honestly believe it was nothing but a push for gold.  The sad part, I can tell by the specific deco given when buying gold that several people bought gold.  And for what?  to possibly have that account wiped too?  If GGS wants people to test new events and such, they really should at least make it MUCH easier if it is necessary to start over.  They should not be trying to sell gold at all on the test server. 
    @Shay1968 (US1) I will ask about all compensations :)

    Thanks for info about live servers, I didn't know they had changed that, its a long time since I started a farm there. It sounds like its almost impossible to be lower than level 19 now then, interesting.  :*  As for the test server, it just depends what needs testing, if they needed to test something involving high level farms, then they would have to make it possible to get a farm that high quickly, in the case of this last test, they just needed to see how the event ended, if the coop scores matched the total of the member scores, so it really didn't matter how high the players, coops or scores were. I had a nice farm there myself, so I would also like to see it reappear, but we just need to remember its a test server & totally optional, we should not expect too much. As for the gold buying, that is also just an option that is available to anyone that wants to buy gold & it also came with a warning that it could all be lost.
  • Kimmiecat (NL1)Kimmiecat (NL1) NL1 Posts: 995
    ...... The CHWE that only lasted for a few minutes, did pay out the rewards for the end of the event, so that may have been taken as compensation  ....
    I did not get any rewards or I would have the final reward in inventory.  All I did get .... was booted.

    My concern is about the second reset when the line-up of crates were reset.  I had Special Dandis with Super humus planted for the next crate in line and ended up not even getting Dandis at all the rest of the event.  The reset also changed the current item I was working on causing a loss in points as well as the loss in points to wait to start a completely different crop. When you are up to 8pps plus bonus points and the crate suddenly changes with no warning and is replaced with a completely different crop with no time to prepare it really takes it's toll on your score, especially if you take a break from the computer thinking you have X amount of time.  Two hours or so with no points rolling in is a HUGE setback. 

    They should not be trying to sell gold at all on the test server. 
    Two remarks on my part:

    1. GGS should have waited trying to correct the coopscore, until half an hour before the ending of the event. Then the individual positions would have been settled and the reset of crates would have had little inpact.
    2. Gold buying should be blocked on the testserver, although I think that some players do this even realizing it might disolve.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I have a couple of suggestions is GGS is interested in making the HW / CoopHW better.

    This is in addition to the obvious bugs, already copiously outlined.

    1.  Too many products were added.  The addition of rutabaga, alfalfa, and wheat, now means that field crops occur way too often.  This cripples the whole farm.  I would recommend removing at least two main farm field items.  Preferably rutabaga and alfalfa.

    2.  For the same reasons on the gourmet farm (which supports less fields), I would remove Lamb's Lettuce from the line-up.

    3.  There needs to be a max number of bonus points that can be accrued.  Over on the WW update announcement page, GGS is worried about fairness.  how about having some fairness in this event.  It was very fair in the past.  It is hardly so, now.  

    4.  As noted earlier, the GMLs must be reduced to something less than 3 million.  The current target is absurd.
  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    yes, the addition of the main farm crops totally unbalanced the event - the % chance of getting multiple crops in a row is very high now, i often had three in a row, which means you cant prepare with SS etc (or you can but less effectively)

    of course some may say it's down to tactics, choices etc to work around it or make it work for you

    that is a point but personally i agree with gavin it unbalanced the hw considerably
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 02.11.2017

    I agree with the suggestion of removing some of the new crops, especially lamb lettuce and wheat, way too many crops in a row

    As far as the "coop event" I don't see why we call it a coop event at all: true there is a coop ranking, but the rewards are not for the coop, except the ranking rewards won at the end, so I see no point in it

    To make it a coop event, those 50 rewards should be changed to rewards that all coop members win and not rewards that single players win


  • To me, a CO Op Event means all members contribute to what each crate asks for; same as in CO Op Projects. I agree awards should be,for all members as well. Otherwise it is no different than the regular Hardworker event aside from the rankings. That is the only difference I see. Co OP Event should be where all contribute, like in Santa Event. Just my thoughts.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
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  • ttt34 (INT1)ttt34 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 240
    how someone can obtain 100 points per sec since main reward is for 35.000.000 and we have 4 days?
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    Apart from the unrealistic amount of points needed for the GMLS I don't mind this event. I would rather have this on every week instead of the CC.
  • bandit12 (NL1)bandit12 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 22
    I refuse to play this HWCE,if you want to win things that are worth playing it cost tons of money,not with mee-thantk you,its all coopevents you see last time,and i can say that many coopmembers are thinking te same,NO MORE.
  • Please GGS put the crop HWE  back to how it was before. The new format is rubbish, unrealistic, and has just plain spoilt what was a good event before.  Why change for change sake?  Surely you've heard of the saying 'If it ain't broke.......'
    I will not be putting extra money into this. As if there isn't enough to spend dollars and gold on. This stinks of greed.
  • Ridiculous!  The CHWE is NOT a coop event. If it were, all stuff crated would be credited to a coop, and EVERY COOP MEMBER would get rewards for placing in the rewards levels. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!!

    And, once again, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET 102 POINTS PER SECOND for the top award, OR 24 POINTS PER SECOND FOR THE GML!!!

    They did lower the points needed for GML, but still far too high.

    LAME, like so much of this game is becoming.

  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341

    I think that the calculations were done so as to give the total of the whole coop and not individual members of that coop. There were probably two or more versions played about with by the devs and the programming for the coop total was kept instead of individual members.  There is no way I will ever obtain the 4,000,000+ points needed for the gml, and as for the top reward well I am afraid that my bank account has nowhere close to the amount of money I would need to spend on gold.  To achieve 102pps would mean playing all day every day with no breaks, which is what leads me to believe the wrong programme coding was put in place.


  • is this stupid HWE FIXED i have just loaded the funnel with apples then used numerous seaweed feed on my orchards and all the stupid pointer is sitting at is NUMBER 2 the machine should be blowing its top off, truly going off this game and as for WWE 300 silver medals i worked my socks of last week playing this event and all i get is a misreable 300 medals
  • momrulz (US1)momrulz (US1) Posts: 162
    edited 12.11.2017
    re:  the new, improved and "completely tested" co-op HWE:

    Please tell me this isn't your intended final fix.....

    I find it completely demoralizing and has killed my motivation to "work hard" and spend gold.....just sayin'

    A gml is a highly coveted prize, though it costs less than $2 USD to buy that 2K gold.....and it costs BGS NOTHING to give them out occasionally...why bite the hand that feeds you???
    In my level bracket (100-149) it appears only three players are on track to get to the 4 million points for a gml...
    It shouldn't be easy, but it should not be unattainable to so many......

    George left his nice glass of beet juice out in the sun too long...tastes sour to me :(
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    edited 13.11.2017
    The top prizes for the CHWE are set up horribly.

    There is no prize for rank 4-10 for top ranking rewards.  Please ask the devs to look at this. 

    Also, why would anyone want Harvest festival boxes Meadow flower boxes for rank 11-25 that includes NO VH and is only 30 H ...  when there is ...

    a GML for rank 26-50.  This could hinder coop participation drastically. 


    Also, where are the WWC event points for individual hard work rewards? Only points available are for top players and top coops. 

    I think there should also be Co-op rewards along the way just like the CCs.  With as many resources that are needed for this event, throwing us a few extra scraps shouldn't be a big deal.

    Edited to change deco name.
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  • IceeMimi (US1)IceeMimi (US1) US1 Posts: 137
    edited 13.11.2017
    I am the leader of my group and while we are playing and getting for free whatever we can gather. We are not playing as hard as normal simply because most of the great gifts are out of reach unless we want to sell our first born to buy gold enough to buy our way up that massive ladder. Getting a little greedy are we??? My first born is 46, I am sure he is not on board for taking the time to be sold for gold.

    On a lighter note, I usually make a million plus and actually take naps and sleep at night without gold. The prizes were fairly obtainable. Now the only thing I am interested in is the gold certificates. They are up in the 4 mil plus range now. Before they were at the 1,200,000 points. No point in my hurting myself to reach something I have to spend more money than I am going to make if I manage to reach that level. Sitting back and working the farms, and not going to worry about the new version. Hoping they will see the folly of their ways and correct what was working in the beginning. I refuse to buy gold and I am not able to live on this game day in and day out for hours and hours. Something I have attempted to do in the past, but you are making it easy for me to eventually jump ship. I have a few personal goal that no longer coincide with the goals of the game. Once I achieve those, I stop for the night no matter where the event stops or when. Once I reach my goals I stop.

    Stop being so greedy and start making the game enjoyable. I know you have your pets. It showed recently when one group found their way out of the spot they normally hold and you turned everyone's world upside because they are big buyers of gold. No thought to those that took a hit when you put them back on top. I am happy you fixed their issue, do not get me wrong. it needed to be fixed. I had Jasmine running for another three hours and had started my next item showing in the next window in the HWE. When the game updated and the HWE event returned, Jasmine was still in the window but set at 0 hours running time. With no place to turn, in order to maintain my position and win my gifts, I paid gold to bypass and expected it to be paid back. Why should I have to regrow the same crop I had plenty of and plenty of time remaining in order to keep the HWE running. I was told they could not do for one person, yet they had just changed everything for one group. Hmmm. Have a nice day. Sorry I wrote a book. It is just how I felt and I needed to state my feelings. 


  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    @IceeMimi (US1)  Well put.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
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  • Andy_Roo (AU1)Andy_Roo (AU1) AU1 Posts: 5

    I used to enjoy the challenge of the HWE. Trying to get to 1.2m and finish in the top 50 was difficult but achieveable.

    However, the new Co-Op HWE is so ridiculously unachievable that I don't even bother trying anymore. The higher rewards are impossible to achieve without spending huge amounts of money/gold/resources to fill the funnel and get the bonus points.

    With this and the continuously repetitive Co-op Championship events I am seriously considering leaving the game. I hope GGS removes some of these changes very soon.

  • holidayrox (US1)holidayrox (US1) US1 Posts: 328
    So, the numbers have changed, but still unattainable. 

    Mr NUMBERS guy (or gal), PLEASE try and make things REALISTIC. You tweaked the machine to give us booster points to be able to make more points per second. Except then you changed the amounts to get the machine to overfill. WHY? Did you not realize that this totally defeats the purpose?

    I don't mind spending gold, but I certainly do mind WASTING it.


  • sjanni (SKN1)sjanni (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 20
    i post this statement, even i dont think you even read it. First the silo, my good has that turned bad, im thinking kiss my ..., it is not possible to get anywere, if you are not a milionare, and im not, so,i vill just forget about that event, as i am a lot others. more and more players in my coop are having red dots, and im not blaming them, Bf is taking all fun out of the game, . 3 times missions in less than 3 weeks, so they can sell more gold, sorry, i havent bought gold for a long time,and im not going too,, WHY, guess, BF are too greedy, dont care that players have a life beside playing bf, but i do, so, do whatw you want, , i just ignore you
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
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