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Coop Village Rebalancing needed -- GGS please address this


The village is not properly balanced.  We are a top 5 coop and i am constantly running into limitations/requirements that are not logical.  Here is a partial list of those.  Feel free to append or comment.

1.  Village Jetty......Everyone advises us not to go to level 5, because it is too hard.  There are many more levels.  Obviously its requirements must be changed....... if people in the best coops, at level 5, tell me that they regret upgrading to that level.

2.  The Timber and Metals Factory Upgrade Times.  There are 100 levels to these buildings.  By level 30, you already have upgrade times as long at 48 hours.  One of two things needs to happen.

Either (A) we must be able to make stuff while it upgrades, or (B) the upgrades times must be reduced by a large amount, like say 75 percent.  You cannot even use the Jetty if it requires things from one of those factories which is tied up for two days at a time.

3.  Nails need to be able to be made in bigger quantities...perhaps an hour's worth at a time.

4.  Rope needs to have its manufacturing time reduced.

5.  The amounts of nails, rope, and shingles needed in Warehouse upgrades need to be greatly reduced.

6.  The items required for upgrades for the Horse Meadow need to be reduced.  Many farmers cannot use it until it gets level 5, which is unattainable, and we are a top level coop.

Comments

  • These are some very good points. ..it is most discouraging to my team players and they stay away and do not participate. Racing to supply the Village Boat to benefit from the effort. It becomes stressful for one & two players to accumulate supplies for upgrading the factories. And too much racing & competition to enjoy the 'game' at your own pace. Also, I have team members are caught with the Southern States disaster of tornadoes & the floods with the extreme weather changes of latter years. They have no homes, no services and no internet to play. So we are only a couple players in between their jobs to play and the co-op suffers with competition & demands of 'Buy Gold' always in your face. Yes, I'd appreciate a little review on some of your programming. It's become a horrible tedious job. TY
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    I have been saying since the beginning the village is not balanced properly and that everything is overbearing.  We are constantly pushed and pulled in every direction lately and it is over-stimulating. Over-stimulation and overbearing is not a good combination, it only leads to avoidance. Most players choose a farming game for the relaxation of it.  Spend an extreme amount of time making and growing upgrade materials for the Jetty and the reward .... a 54% increase in personal items and the items needed to repair it each time it returns.  We certainly don't get a 54% increase when growing edge crops when we upgrade anything in the village, matter of fact, we get NO increase on edge crop output what-so-ever.   Spend an extreme amount of time making and growing upgrade materials for the other buildings and you get a small increase in production but more and more lost time due to higher construction periods and less happiness.  The village makes absolutely NO sense to me, I can't even figure out a purpose to it.  Just busy work?   The Jetty that is a chore in itself?  The broke down horse meadow that doesn't seem to do much of anything?  The job center that we wouldn't need in the first place if it wasn't for the edge crop penalty ... I tried to hire a worker for my fields that had a 6 hour penalty, it said it would take 8.5 hours to clear ... how does that work?????  :/  And to top it off I would lose my fields completely for that 8.5 hours, would be better off re-planting wheat and suffering a 60% loss.  Also the coop challenges hinder edge crops because fields are needed for missions and the fact they keep moving the CCs closer and closer together makes it very difficult to meet the demands of the village.  The village has VERY little appeal and needs a serious over-haul on the numbers. 
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    Gavin seems quite positive to me.
    We see no point in taking the Jetty past lvl 1. 54% increase in donations to repair and only a minor improvement in an already poor reward.
    The Job Centre is not cost effective nor a great acvantage at any level. What point in upgrading it.
    At lvl 12 the Bank is effective, edge crops can be sold for dollars and then profitably transfered through the Bank
    The Warehouse is totally adequate as provided
    The Horse Meadow is alright but doesn't really offer much advantage when racing.
    The M&M and T&T produce everything we need at lvl 18 and 25 respectively.

    There are all these levels to everything but what's the point? where are the dollars? I don't see us going anywhere further with this the way it stands.  :¬(
  • CrazyBigfarm55 (US1)CrazyBigfarm55 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,226
    I agree, the village needs a lot of work. It involves much too much work to do anything there.

    The only thing we use is the jetty, ours is level 3 and each level takes more and more to repair it so I don't see that going much higher. We all have better things to do than plant edge plants all day long.

    The village league is a bust, don't ever do it and I don't think many co-ops do anymore.

    The upgrade time alone on the buildings puts everything at a stand-still. 

    The bank and the warehouse need far too many materials to upgrade them.

    Need I go on :)
  • I agree 100%.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Great posts, each of you.  We have been saying all of this from the beginning.  GGS needs to pull it, work on it, change what needs to be changed, trash what needs to be trashed (Village League, anyone?) then maybe, maybe, bring it back in a new format, or scrap it all together.  A successful company needs to know when to pull the plug on a bad idea.
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    I really think GGS sorta put a lot of thought into the village, but I am guessing they did not play it every day, day after day and repair that Jetty every day, day after day for any period of time.  The village really could have been something fun had the amounts for upgrades and Jetty repairs not been so astronomical.  I like the idea of the Jetty, a place to be able to get extra resources daily, however, day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day ............... well you get the point, it becomes very repetitious and is no longer considered any fun at all. 
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    AGREE with all that's been said  and lets go back to WHAT is the purpose  they dump this out to us without any rhyme or reason to what its purpose is. So far this is what is apparent  we upgrade the factories to make products that the jetty needs but the stress of the jetty is not worth going past upgrade one in my opinion although we accidently did upgrade two  and all of 49 coop members feel the same.  This coop village while at first appearance you would think would be something fun and delightful has in reality been a GGS albatross. 
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    edited 06.10.2017
    AGREE with all that's been said  and lets go back to WHAT is the purpose  they dump this out to us without any rhyme or reason to what its purpose is. So far this is what is apparent  we upgrade the factories to make products that the jetty needs but the stress of the jetty is not worth going past upgrade one in my opinion although we accidently did upgrade two  and all of 49 coop members feel the same.  This coop village while at first appearance you would think would be something fun and delightful has in reality been a GGS albatross. 
    You made a very good point.  Repeatedly we've asked what the purpose of the Village is, and no one has come out with a definitive statement.  My guess is that they developed something without any end goal in mind.

    Lots of repetitive and expensive work for basically a few extra seeds and goodies from the Captain? 

    Even if the Village League worked, the rewards are laughable.

    Right now it's simply a good place to go blind trying to find hidden objects every month or so.
  • Over and over again...the same thing...the same truth !    Please !  this is the respect that was talked about in many threads before...where is the relief... nothing to reply...EVERYONE JUST WANTS TO BE HEARD and why aren't they heard..?

    how hard is that, to care..? 
    These are good suggestions on top of it all...
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    Since many have said and I totally agree, there really does not seem a purpose to the village... just get rid of it!  Be a lot easier than trying to "re-balance" it etc.  :p
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    JVD (US1) said:
    Since many have said and I totally agree, there really does not seem a purpose to the village... just get rid of it!  Be a lot easier than trying to "re-balance" it etc.  :p
    Because we all know how well rebalancing has worked in the past. ;)
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    Yeah I agree......hated it when it first came out, gave it a chance for a few months and now totally despise it. Its a complete waste of time and resources in my opinion. Sure the jetty has some reasonable rewards at times, meadow also improves horses to a degree but am yet to see anything overly impressive about it. After all this time the question "whats the purpose of the village?" is still yet to be answered so the only conclusion I can come to about it is its there to give players something to do? We already have enough to do and the other events give much better rewards for effort.
  • Agreed GIZ & ART & JVD...so when will it happen..? 

    We can hope...lol...is that funny now or what..?
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Don't hold your breath.
  • BJs (US1)BJs (US1) US1 Posts: 189
      This is a tough one -  rebalance the The village. How can that be done - Even if you give an hour of thought how could you  progress, The job center alone could take a month other than a few extra sand and stone it has no value. I know of no Coop or any member that uses it more than once. there is a work around to getting more stone, sand, clay ect It is very simple. I used the Meadow for horse and it did say the up grade was there and what it is for, but it did not help me. Edge is only increased with longer timed crops. I like the Jetty Boat you can see it is a coop work together project. If you get to the upper lvl where it can be of some good and fun - you get boxes that say 1 gift then another box that says 1 of the same gift as the other box. Really 2 boxes gone. What is that for - Rebalance could be done but it will take a lot of thinking not hit and miss changes. As far as what is the  purpose - I think that will come later when it is put to the advantage of the player then the purpose may be revealed that is not what it was meant to do.  I have to agree the village has some points of interest but it is to much work dependent it is a hindrance as it is now.  (The upgrade) Amounts needed for the chore - Amount of time taken from game play to complete and the Added amounts to supply the jetty based on the amount able to be made seems a bit excessive. Consider the the post above and below.



  • CIN SOON (INT1)CIN SOON (INT1) INT1 Posts: 136
    Actually the village life is more free than the city life (main/gourmet/flower/temporary farm). But this one I think the village activities is more complex and difficult (produce and donate to upgrade buildings)than the real life.

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