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Village League Challenge Mechanisms

Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
Based on help about VL, the challenger ALWAYS produce more than the challenged coop. But on this screenshot, my coop (the challenger) produce less than opposing coop.
 So my question is, if our coop have the VH rate much higher than opposing coop's VH rate until to the certain point, is it possible to break the rule "the challenger ALWAYS produce more than the challenged coop"?
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  • KarenKay (US1)KarenKay (US1) Posts: 1,036
    @Surya54 (INT1)  Originally it stated the following:

    Fairness Effects:

    First Strike (Challenging Cooperative): the challenging cooperative gets a penalty to compensate for the fact that they can choose the starting time and the products in the basket.

    Melancholy Mood (Challenging and Challenged Cooperatives): each cooperative gets a penalty for having negative cooperative village happiness. The lower the happiness, the more the cooperative has to collect in the competition This will come at a later stage.  

    But I was of the understanding that the latter hadn't been implemented, perhaps it has.

  • noisy (US1)noisy (US1) US1 Posts: 210
    It really sucks that you're co-op is challenged & you're winning but you get nothing for what you did just because the co-op that challenged you was challenged & lost that challenge before you finished. The losing co-op gets rewards for losing twice & the co-op that was challenged by the losing co-op gets nothing. Why would co-ops want to defend their position when they get nothing for doing so just because the challenger lost to co-op that challenged them. You really need to fix this injustice because you're rewarding losers just because they make a challenge & punishing the co-op that was challenged for not completing a challenge that another co-op started & they couldn't finish because they lost to their challenger. If a co-op challenges another co-op they shouldn't get anything if lose due to the fact that they couldn't finish because they were challenged but the co-op that was challenged by them should get the reward because they won.
  • noisy (US1)noisy (US1) US1 Posts: 210
    edited 14.09.2017
    They didn't put the ?  Why does the co-op being challenged get nothing for the challenge just because they were challenged by another co-op & lost so they were unable to finish their challenge but they get a reward for losing 2 times (the challenge they made & the challenge they were given?
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    edited 14.09.2017
    Not sure what you mean by them getting a reward for losing the challenge they made.

    In any event, many coops, when challenged, just ignore it.  Too many variables for very little reward to make "working hard to win when challenged" worth it.  

    Very bad set up.
  • buddy194 (US1)buddy194 (US1) US1 Posts: 382
    First, I agree with @artful (US1)  about the Hill Challenge being way too much work for way too little reward.

    But that aside, I also agree with the OP's opinion that the challenged co-op should be given credit for a win, even though they won by default rather than by completing all the products in the basket.  Perhaps a reward of medallions based on their percentage of completion of the challenge basket?

    It's not right to bust your buns defending your position only to have all that production wasted because the schmuck below you couldn't beat his own challenger.
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    I think not based on percentage, but medallions based on how much you can produce. So in other words, our hard work should be paid off based how many items our coop got for VL Challenge.
  • Ladyoz (US1)Ladyoz (US1) US1 Posts: 155
    I have a friend on my co-op whose harvests are not being added into the current Village League challenge. Is there anything she can do about this? (She can't file a Support ticket because she has not been able to log in to the forum for a few years - it won't accept her password. She can log into the game but not the forum.)
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    Was she a member of the coop before the challenge was started? if not then I  don't believe the harvests will  count, but will for the next challenge...
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    Is your friend join on your co-op when the league challenge already started? In this case, it's possible since BF doesn't allow any members who joined to the co-op to influence the league when one is running
  • Ladyoz (US1)Ladyoz (US1) US1 Posts: 155
    edited 09.10.2017
    @Surya54 (INT1)
    @JVD (US1)
    She joined the day before, so maybe the system didn't count her in when the challenge started. Hopefully next time, then. Thank you.


  • Kotresh.j (IN1)Kotresh.j (IN1) IN1 Posts: 21

    Hi,

    Village league challenge not counting all members harvests except only one member which is started today by Farming Legends coop

    Kindly help

  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    A new member to a co op will not be able to help with the Village Changes until they have been a member of the co op for a certain period of time like 30 days ;)
  • ashim (IN1)ashim (IN1) IN1 Posts: 572
    A new member to a co op will not be able to help with the Village Changes until they have been a member of the co op for a certain period of time like 30 days ;)
    days is not included in village challenge @Data King (US1) , i just join a new coop and my harvesting is counted in village challenge
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    Interesting I wonder if it is server related then?
     From my understanding if a new members joins a co op there's was or is a wait period for the new member's harvest to count toward a Village challenge. The other functions of the co op become available as soon as a member joins a co op but I do believe there are restrictions on new members when it comes to the co op village & the participation within there.
  • grrr (NL1)grrr (NL1) NL1 Posts: 664
    @ashim (IN1) is right @Data King (US1), I found the announcement and it clearly says members have to be in the coop at the start of the challenge, nothing about a waiting time,
    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/157703/update-july-20th-coop-league-cc-fixes-new-upgrade-levels#latest


  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    @ashim (IN1) is right @Data King (US1), I found the announcement and it clearly says members have to be in the coop at the start of the challenge, nothing about a waiting time,
    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/157703/update-july-20th-coop-league-cc-fixes-new-upgrade-levels#latest


    Thanks :) so if they join during a challenge then their harvests will not count but will count on the next challenge. So not a waiting period as I stated before but a restriction is enforced on new members of a co op.
  • ashim (IN1)ashim (IN1) IN1 Posts: 572
    @ashim (IN1) is right @Data King (US1), I found the announcement and it clearly says members have to be in the coop at the start of the challenge, nothing about a waiting time,
    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/157703/update-july-20th-coop-league-cc-fixes-new-upgrade-levels#latest


    Thanks :) so if they join during a challenge then their harvests will not count but will count on the next challenge. So not a waiting period as I stated before but a restriction is enforced on new members of a co op.
    yes :)
  • edited 10.10.2017
    @Surya54 (INT1) The amount of items that need to be collected, is based on the coops league ranking & the challenger is required to collect higher amounts that the coop they challenge. However, if your coop members have a very good combined average village happiness, that will reduce the amounts & it is very possible to have a better AVH than the coop you challenged, so that your amounts are lower than theirs.

    @noisy (US1) If one or more coops move in the rankings, any outstanding challenges that are no longer valid (because the coops are no longer next to each other) are cancelled - Neither coop gets medals for a win. However, if you have made significant progress in the challenge & even competed some items, you do still get medals for any achievements that you earned.
    If you get counterchalleged, take a look at the hill in your village & if the coop below you has both a red & a blue flag, it means that they have already been challenged by the coop below them. You cannot see how far that challenge has progressed (though we have asked for that be shown) but you can at least be prepared for the possibility that that challenge will end before yours.

    I have a friend on my co-op whose harvests are not being added into the current Village League challenge. Is there anything she can do about this? (She can't file a Support ticket because she has not been able to log in to the forum for a few years - it won't accept her password. She can log into the game but not the forum.)
    @Ladyoz (US1) As others have already explained, new members can only start to contribute to any challenges started after they joined  - But regarding the issue of support, your friend can still do tickets, without having access to the forum, there is a Support button in game, in the drop-down list of options, below the forum button.

    If you send me a PM with more details about the problems that she is having with the forum, I will see if I can do anything to help. :)

    Hi,

    Village league challenge not counting all members harvests except only one member which is started today by Farming Legends coop

    Kindly help

    @Kotresh.j (IN1) Are you saying that harvests are not being counted for a new member? - If so, their harvests will start to count for the next challenge, but not for one that started before they joined.

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