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New deep sea fishing system Price&Cost Chart (Need some Feedback&Help too)

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  • yes JVD I can calculate both oyster and lobster with that :)
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784

    here you go
  • Super thanks JVD, all prices are corrected/updated now.
    we need the remaining other fish types (herring and shrimp) and other remaining chum types now :)
    if you got solo brush or rake or token or other prizes + dollar contracts too, post them also please so we can calculate price of those prices separately too. thanks everyone
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    you are very welcome... I have a herring and tuna with rakes and brushes... probably not helpful, but yours if you want it.
  • garybaldy (GB1)garybaldy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 502
    Got 2  new contracts : -

     409   oyster     +   190 swordfish   =   $4,160,325   + 5 Karma
    10   tuna chum +   159 swordfish   =   $3,164,034   + 5 Karma


  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    JVD (US1) said:
    you are very welcome... I have a herring and tuna with rakes and brushes... probably not helpful, but yours if you want it.
    4 types and only 1 known yet(Tuna), 3 unknown variables (rake, brush, herring), it can not be useful now, but it may become useful later once we know 2 of the other unknown 3 variables. so yes it can help later if it's not much problem, appreciate if you post it too.

    Got 2  new contracts : -

     409   oyster     +   190 swordfish   =   $4,160,325   + 5 Karma
    10   tuna chum +   159 swordfish   =   $3,164,034   + 5 Karma


    thanks Gary, that just confirmed the new prices i calculated seem correct (at least for those 3 types for sure) :)
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Still a bit off somewhere:

    Based on my contract I posted earlier:

    183 Lobster * $7,136 = $1,305,888
    289 Oyster * $1,846 = $533,494
    5 Karma Points = $125,000
    Total: $1,964,382

    Actual Contract Value: $1,714,508

    How confident are you on that Karma value?
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    Still a bit off somewhere:

    Based on my contract I posted earlier:

    183 Lobster * $7,136 = $1,305,888
    289 Oyster * $1,846 = $533,494
    5 Karma Points = $125,000
    Total: $1,964,382

    Actual Contract Value: $1,714,508

    How confident are you on that Karma value?
    karma point is on the other side of the equation. so you should subtract it from oyster + lobster earning. the it will become (almost) equal to 1,714,508
     
    the equation is like this:

    5 x (karma) + 1,714,508 (dollars) = 183 (Lobster) + 289 (Oyster)

    ------------
    I'm 99.9% certain of karma point price now, fish/chum prices are a bit rounded up/down though (so if you got ~1000 dollar difference, it is normal)
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Still a bit off somewhere:

    Based on my contract I posted earlier:

    183 Lobster * $7,136 = $1,305,888
    289 Oyster * $1,846 = $533,494
    5 Karma Points = $125,000
    Total: $1,964,382

    Actual Contract Value: $1,714,508

    How confident are you on that Karma value?
    karma point is on the other side of the equation. so you should subtract it from oyster + lobster earning. the it will become equal to 1,714,508
     
    the equation is like this:

    5 x (karma) + 1,714,508 (dollars) = 183 (Lobster) + 289 (Oyster)
    *Doh*.. You're absolutely right. 

    I really do need another cup of coffee I think. :disappointed:

    That would put the value of the contract at $1,714,382. A difference of $126, but it's darn close. Close enough to be explained by a decimal point value in one of the values of Lobster or Oyster (like $1,846.3 per Oyster).. No point getting that specific I think.

  • Still a bit off somewhere:

    Based on my contract I posted earlier:

    183 Lobster * $7,136 = $1,305,888
    289 Oyster * $1,846 = $533,494
    5 Karma Points = $125,000
    Total: $1,964,382

    Actual Contract Value: $1,714,508

    How confident are you on that Karma value?
    karma point is on the other side of the equation. so you should subtract it from oyster + lobster earning. the it will become equal to 1,714,508
     
    the equation is like this:

    5 x (karma) + 1,714,508 (dollars) = 183 (Lobster) + 289 (Oyster)
    *Doh*.. You're absolutely right. 

    I really do need another cup of coffee I think. :disappointed:

    That would put the value of the contract at $1,714,382. A difference of $126, but it's darn close. Close enough to be explained by a decimal point value in one of the values of Lobster or Oyster (like $1,846.3 per Oyster).. No point getting that specific I think.

    hehe no worries my friend, I also needed one cup of coffee too with the first prices i calculated hehe
    also feedback is always good this way we get more certain that we're doing it right.
    and yes i removed the decimal point, so the little difference (~1000 dollar) or so is to be expected, that's not miscalculation :)
  • 337 lobster = $2,280,118 + 5 karma
    312 herring = $1,449,118 
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    337 lobster = $2,280,118 + 5 karma ($7,136.8 per Lobster)
    312 herring = $1,449,118  ($4,644.6 per Herring)
    Lobster's right on the money. :)

    Time for a spreadsheet Griffith. :)
  • 337 lobster = $2,280,118 + 5 karma
    312 herring = $1,449,118 
    Hi rxn, thanks for sharing, but can you please also share screenshot? thanks.

    337 lobster = $2,280,118 + 5 karma ($7,136.8 per Lobster)
    312 herring = $1,449,118  ($4,644.6 per Herring)
    Lobster's right on the money. :)

    Time for a spreadsheet Griffith. :)
    a bit early yet I think Southern, still many chum prices are missing.
    also i want to make some further calculations after we finished this, to involve lester stash bonus too and maybe contract bonus too. to see how much we can fish dollars from this new system :p
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    If it follows the standard organic market, each contract already has a built-in bonus of 5% (meaning all the prices you have right now are 5% inflated; that could be where the decimal point values are coming from).

    No easy way to know though, as we don't have anything to compare it to.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    If it follows the standard organic market, each contract already has a built-in bonus of 5% (meaning all the prices you have right now are 5% inflated; that could be where the decimal point values are coming from).

    No easy way to know though, as we don't have anything to compare it to.
    since we can't sell the fish/chum directly anymore, the 5% initial does not even matter anymore. but the bonus from contract can affect our earning, what i don't know yet though, up to what % the sea market contract bonuses will be (is it same as organic market up to 25% i mean, or different), and also whether it even worth using contract bonus or not much, and if yes up to "what estimate point" for what type of contracts (1 item, 2 item, ...) cause unlike organic market in which we may not even mind idk donating 1000 barley together with alot of other things too sometimes just to keep out contract bonus up, in sea market our resources (meaning ships) are limited, and the difference between oyster/chum/clam, pools with other pools is a bit too much, which may make "not getting contract bonus" + "not fishing oyster/clam/shrimp", actually a better choice than "upping contract bonus" + "fishing oyster/clam/shrimp". So i'm still waiting to see more about this new market to suggest strategies. I don't know if i managed to deliver what i meant to say with good words but I hope I did :p

    either way i think lester stash upgrades has more meanings now at least and I may suggest making lester stash level 10 at least to everyone before upgrading trawlers to lvl 6 now though.
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    So what is everyone's thought on Lester's secret stash?  I guess this is the thing to try to upgrade?  And Griffith just to let you know the salmon numbers i gave you was before I used my 6% sorry if i caused confusion.
  • So what is everyone's thought on Lester's secret stash?  I guess this is the thing to try to upgrade?  And Griffith just to let you know the salmon numbers i gave you was before I used my 6% sorry if i caused confusion.
    lester stash upgrade certainly has more meaning now. if i remember correctly the lvl 5 to lvl 6 trawler upgrade cost was ~56mil, so with the new system it might actually be better to upgrade lester stash at least up to level 10 before rushing to upgrade trawlers to lvl 5 or 6 maybe.
    (lester stash lvl 9 to 10 upgrade was ~100mil i think. but worth it now i think since it's applicable to both organic and sea market)

    and thanks for telling me about the salmon price, if i see more contracts with salmon i will re-calculate and confirm it or correct it :)

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    If these have been posted before, please forgive.  Note that the one requiring fewer items also gives almost twice the dollars (the rake and brush are not valuable to me, nor are the Karma points.)


  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    Hello Griffith
    I Think Lobsters gives a bit less dollars 
    261*7136=18.62L and add up 1.25L for 5 karma points
    brings it to 19.87L 
    But i do get only 17.37 L from this contract 
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    How are you calculating the profit per fish?  Some people eventually will be offered different amounts of dollars for the same order, just like in the organic market -- in other words, you get what they feel like paying at any given moment.  (My post above where an order for less cod pays almost twice than that for an order of more cod + chum, for example.)

    Also, can we presume it's pure profit on fish when we send our boats out empty, which is exactly what some of us intend to do.
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Hello Griffith
    I Think Lobsters gives a bit less dollars 
    261*7136=18.62L and add up 1.25L for 5 karma points
    brings it to 19.87L 
    But i do get only 17.37 L from this contract 
    You have to subtract the 1.25L from 18.62L to get the value of the dollar portion of the contract.

    261*7136=18.62
    18.62-1.25L = 17.37L

    (Not that I have any idea what "L" is, just following your format) :)


  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268


    Cod: 10,828 * 214 = $2,317,192
    Salmon: $14,766 * 125 = $1,845,750 (~14766(needs confirmation) dollar per Salmon (Thanks to maxiroy (US1) )
    Karma Points: $125,000

    Value: ((2,317,192 + 1,845,750) - 125,000) = 4,037,942

    Difference of: $157

    Salmon Price checks out.

  • APK (IN1)APK (IN1) Posts: 49
    These are my two contracts....


    One will give me 1.1 million+5 karma pts. and 2nd one will give me 3 million+5 karma pts.

    Shall I decline these two contracts or shall I complete them?

    N.B.) I have 14 level-2 Runabouts

    Thanks 



  • This game becoming worst day by day. Got one great thing fishing region and now that is also added in waste list. If i make 346 chums that will take 7 days to produce and lots of fishes and expenditure of equipment also and amount of this order is only 12.6L. Not only this order all order are loss maker.  :/:/
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    edited 17.08.2017
    Hello Griffith
    I Think Lobsters gives a bit less dollars 
    261*7136=18.62L and add up 1.25L for 5 karma points
    brings it to 19.87L 
    But i do get only 17.37 L from this contract 
    You have to subtract the 1.25L from 18.62L to get the value of the dollar portion of the contract.

    261*7136=18.62
    18.62-1.25L = 17.37L

    (Not that I have any idea what "L" is, just following your format) :)


    Thanks @ Southern :smile:
    Got it
    Gud work Griffith :smile: 
    Not interested in touching this fish OM lol have already saved enough dollars for few years of gaming maybe lol  :D

    PS : @ Southern
             L stands for Lakhs or this maybe better 10 Lakhs = 1 million   :)

  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    @Griffith (INT1)   Shrimp and Tuna 




  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557

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    I just knew you would pick up things again where needed, dear Griff!! THANKS EVER SO MUCH to you and all the helpers in this thread for all your fine work! These are the kind of threads that really bring great added (positive) value to the game for us IMHO! Hats off to you all!


    (I am in the midst of moving to a new apartment and all the moving-stress, hope to frequent the forum more in October again!)
  • garybaldy (GB1)garybaldy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 502
    New shrimp value works out at $ 1105 , assuming Karmas are worth $25000 . This is 39.3% of previous value, so far this reduction seems consistent across other fish and chum .Hard to make any money at this price , I'm going to decline shrimp only contracts .
     As a slight digression , I suspect this whole "rebalancing " has been a bit of an emergency job , the market looks very much like it has been rushed in, graphics are poor . I think the original plan was for all the fish dollars to have a place to go , note that the Volcanic Island farm has been postponed from about now to after the New Year . Good chance that the rebalancing will get adjusted, its gone a teeny bit too far IMHO 




  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    edited 17.08.2017
    Example of the fulfilled contract:

    It's worth $828,356 (karma ball raw price included)
    Expenses to doing this contract (assuming boat return with full load, one of many ways):
    1. Skipjack lvl 1 (3 Freezers, 3 Nancy, and Victor) cost $112K for 32 Cods
    2. Wherry lvl 6 (6 Thermic Boxes, 4 James, and Victor) cost $176,4K for 37 Cods
    3. Runabout lvl 6 (4 Coolboxes, 4 Paul, Gerald, and Rake) cost $77,95K for 46 Osyters
    Total Expenses: $366,650
    Profit (Pure Farm Dollars only): $362,046
    Post edited by Surya54 (INT1) on

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