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New deep sea fishing system Price&Cost Chart (Need some Feedback&Help too)


New Prices& Costs
(Based on most recent DSF update)



If you noticed some inconsistency with the prices listed in these tables, please inform me to make corrections.
(All the credit goes to Surya54 (INT1), Southern (US1), Shay1968 (US1), KarenKay (US1), PCA (GB1), george2558 (AU1) for helping to create this Chart & calculate the prices/cost, and thanks to everyone else for all the help/feedback.)


***Important Notice 1***
You may notice some difference in cost of non-dollar prizes in some contracts "that ONLY have non-dollar prizes, & no dollar". That means they have a "Max" cost/value, (karma = 25000, rake = 312500, brush= 375000, etc) But if there be no dollar in the contract prizes, then these other items cost/value can be "less than max" and that is most probably due to "rounding up". meaning that for example If you have a contract with ~400000 value for some shrimp for example, then if there be no dollar prize in the contract, it can give you 1 rake + 1 brush even (while normally it would cost 687500 dollar, but since GGS can't give 1 rake + ~0.3 brush, then that's is why the contract gives 1 rake and 1 brush instead).

***Important Notice 2***
The numbers shown in these Tables are NOT net profit.

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Just for comparison:

Previous Prices& Costs
(Based on Previous DSF update)


Due to recent update, These prices have changed again.
So don't use this chart as a reference for selling fish/chum, just use it for comparison if needed.

(Thanks to Surya54 (INT1), JVD (US1)Southern (US1)maxiroy (US1), Shay1968 (US1), garybaldy (GB1), Tsuiri (US1), KarenKay (US1), mariam64 (GR1) for helping to create this Chart & calculate the prices/cost, and thanks to everyone for all the help.)


Post edited by Griffith (INT1) on
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  • shazamd (US1)shazamd (US1) US1 Posts: 766
    Unfortunately - I am not getting anything BUT oyster/shrimp/clam and or chum contracts.
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    I have 2 contracts right now...

    first one: 472 Tuna and 535 clams for 3,702,643 + 5 Karma

    second one:  428 Swordfish for 8,013,390 + 5 Karma
  • Unfortunately - I am not getting anything BUT oyster/shrimp/clam and or chum contracts.
    cancel them all, till you get better ones. patience is certainly a key in the new system since we can't sell directly anymore anyway, but in long term once we stock up more fish, it can run more smoothly. still not nearly ever as good as old system though ofc.
  • JVD (US1) said:
    I have 2 contracts right now...

    first one: 472 Tuna and 535 clams for 3,702,643 + 5 Karma

    second one:  428 Swordfish for 8,013,390 + 5 Karma
    Hi JVD, thanks for sharing, just one question, before i do some calculation, those numbers you posted are "with 0 contract bonus" and without applying "lester stash bonus" ?
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    screenshots can make it much easier btw guys if can share.
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    yes, correct @Griffith (INT1)   will post screen shots next time :)  actually have the first one and below that is one I completed...



  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    Here is the swordfish one:


  • Thanks JVD (US1) added their ~ prices to the list too :)
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    edited 16.08.2017
    I'll be glad to help in any way I can once I build my inventory back up, Griffith. It'll take a few days, as I (of course) sold EVERYTHING before the patch.

    The one Karma/$$$ contract I have right now is:



    183 Lobster (Old Value: $18,125 each - $3,316,875)
    289 Oyster (Old Value:
    4,687 each - $1,354,543)
    Old Total Value: $4,671,418

    New Value: $1,714,508
    Decrease in value of: $2,956,910, or 63.3% ((4,671,418 - 1,714,418) / 4,671,418)

    Fancy Math: (Lobsters (183) / Oysters (289)) = 63.3% (strange coincidence) of contract value is from OYSTER.


    {Edited: Nevermind, I just realized it doesn't work that way. All my values were way off. Rest of post deleted.}




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  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    Thanks Southern (US1) , since I don't have neither lobster or oyster's new raw values yet, and since we don't know whether GGS "equally" nerfed prices for all or not either (which doesn't seem so to me at least), that math "may" or "may not" be correct, so I will wait a bit more till we get individual new price of either of those type of fish first, then will calculate the other one based on your screenshot :)

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    P.S. just got a solo oyster contract and calculated its price, and thanks to your screenshot calculated Lobster too after it :)
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    edited 17.08.2017
    Thanks for starting this thread Griffith.  I was actually hoping you would start something like this.  No sense wasting energy getting upset, might as well learn how to work the new system.  Here is my screen shot for salmon.  




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  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    edited 16.08.2017
    just for information, also had a contract for 10 Tuna Chum for (drum roll) 1 rake and 1 brush!!! should have taken a screen shot of that LOL   0 bonus of course.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    for fish section only Herring and Shrimp left now I think. thanks everyone :)

    Still many chum types are missing from list though, but hopefully we can finish calculating them soon too.

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    and thanks maxiroy (US1) , added Salmon price too :)

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    btw for now just screenshot contracts that have "karma + dollar" combo please only, "unless you found a more profitable type of contracts" (dollar-wise). the other contracts that have "rake or brush", as far as I calculated so far at least has a much lower "dollar" pay-out than "karma + dollar" type ones.

  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    For chum  I had  10 HERRING CHUM  197875 and 5 karma points.  But I cancelled that one.

    Also I think it would be great if we keep this thread positive and leave the negativity on the other threads.


  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    edited 16.08.2017
    Thanks Southern (US1) , since I don't have neither lobster or oyster's new raw values yet, and since we don't know whether GGS "equally" nerfed prices for all or not either (which doesn't seem so to me at least), that math "may" or "may not" be correct, so I will wait a bit more till we get individual new price of either of those type of fish first, then will calculate the other one based on your screenshot :)

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    P.S. just got a solo oyster contract and calculated its price, and thanks to your screenshot calculated Lobster too after it :)
    N/M, I see you're updating the OP.

    I wonder why our two values are so far apart.

    {Edit: Nevermind, I just realized why there were so far apart. LOL. I can't determine value that way, with multiple types of fish on the same contract without knowing at least ONE of the fish values beforehand} :)
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    Thanks Southern (US1) , since I don't have neither lobster or oyster's new raw values yet, and since we don't know whether GGS "equally" nerfed prices for all or not either (which doesn't seem so to me at least), that math "may" or "may not" be correct, so I will wait a bit more till we get individual new price of either of those type of fish first, then will calculate the other one based on your screenshot :)

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    P.S. just got a solo oyster contract and calculated its price, and thanks to your screenshot calculated Lobster too after it :)
    So how close were our values? :)
    very close my friend, but we need more exact values for further reference, I did not mean any offense sorry.
    For chum  I had  10 HERRING CHUM  197875 and 5 karma points.  But I cancelled that one.

    Also I think it would be great if we keep this thread positive and leave the negativity on the other threads.


    I agree with you, but well if you are referring to the "burn it all" parts that I have added to my first post, they are for sympathy a bit with more upset players more than negativity, and also to soothe their heart with a bit of humor my friend :)
    It is not hard to say already that one can actually make "more profit" with the new system than they could make in the "old system" if and only if, one magically has super high level lester stash hehe. but I keep this info for now hidden so that other players not call me traitor :p

    will add the Herring chum price to the list too based on the numbers you posted btw, thanks :)
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Thanks Southern (US1) , since I don't have neither lobster or oyster's new raw values yet, and since we don't know whether GGS "equally" nerfed prices for all or not either (which doesn't seem so to me at least), that math "may" or "may not" be correct, so I will wait a bit more till we get individual new price of either of those type of fish first, then will calculate the other one based on your screenshot :)

    ----------
    P.S. just got a solo oyster contract and calculated its price, and thanks to your screenshot calculated Lobster too after it :)
    So how close were our values? :)
    very close my friend, but we need more exact values for further reference, I did not mean any offense sorry.
    Yeah, I realized after the fact that I can't determine value the way I was, with multiple fish on the same contract, without at least knowing the values of one of them beforehand.  It's gotta be done with single-fish contracts. :)

    I'd chalk it up to "Haven't had my coffee yet", except I have. :tongue:
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    edited 16.08.2017
    I wasn't referring to  your first post Griffith.  I loved it! Just don't want this thread to get bogged down in negativity.
  • Yeah, I realized after the fact that I can't determine value the way I was, with multiple fish on the same contract, without at least knowing the values of one of them beforehand.  It's gotta be done with single-fish contracts. :)

    I'd chalk it up to "Haven't had my coffee yet", except I have. :tongue:
    Yes, if we were sure that GGS nerfed all prices with the exact same rate exactly, we could do calculations on multiple type of fish in 1 contract too (+ if we had old prices for each too). but since we don't know that for sure yet, in 2 type of fish/chum contracts, we need to at least have price of 1 solo first, to calculate the other :)
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    have screen shots of  old prices... you want?
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    edited 16.08.2017
    Another Clams contract and here the result:
    $556,27 for 1 clam (if only I can tell the exact price of 1 clam if karma point can be exchanged to farm dollars)

  • JVD (US1) said:
    have screen shots of  old prices... you want?
    No, since we still don't know the other factor involved in calculations:
    "Not knowing whether GGS nerfed all prices at same rate or not."

    but still you have my thanks my friend for all the help :)
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    I took screen shots of the old pricing for the fish but not the chum.  Let me know if you want the shots.

  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Without knowing the value that they've assigned to Karma Points, it's going to be difficult to establish a value for each individual type of fish.  Notice the 2 different values we're seeing for clams - Surya is showing $556 for 1 clam, but your contract earlier was $912.

    The only difference is the 5 Karma Points.

    We need a formula that we can plug in and try to determine the value they've assigned to Karma Points.
  • Another Clams contract and here the result:
    $556,27 for 1 clam

    Thanks Surya54 (INT1), You are right, we also need "price of per karma point" for more exact calculation of fish/chum prices.
    Based on this Screenshot you posted I can now calculate "karma point prices" too and then update all fish/chum prices more accurately.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 16.08.2017
    Without knowing the value that they've assigned to Karma Points, it's going to be difficult to establish a value for each individual type of fish.  Notice the 2 different values we're seeing for clams - Surya is showing $556 for 1 clam, but your contract earlier was $912.

    The only difference is the 5 Karma Points.

    We need a formula that we can plug in and try to determine the value they've assigned to Karma Points.
    You are absolutely right Southern, I just missed that factor, stupid me. but aside from shrimp/clam/oyster, (since they are cheap) it should not affect the ~prices we have calculated for other fish types and chum i think, not much at least (since they are all more expensive). but still yes for more accurate calculation I will find out karma point price too and then update the list of prices.

    unfortunately i have canceled my previous contract that i calculated clam based on it (912 dollar), so I don't remember its quantity. if you guys got oyster or clam contracts (solo) again please post.
    and my apologies to everyone but not worry i will slowly fix this/my mistake.
    I took screen shots of the old pricing for the fish but not the chum.  Let me know if you want the shots.

    thanks dear, but there's no need, once we can calculate karma point prices too, then we can easily get accurate ~price of each fish/chum easily in new system.
  • garybaldy (GB1)garybaldy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 502
    Thank you Griffith for starting this thread , we are all a little bit peeved (classic British understatement ) but it has happened , lets make the best of it . As far as I can tell, the value placed on Karma pts is ~100,000 , that on charms about 200,000 , value of fish 30-40% of previous value .Hard to pin down more exact values until more contracts come in . 
    Once there is enough info, a new strategy can evolve ,  hopefully .:/



  • calculated the "each karma point price"  it is equal to "25000 dollars per karma point"
    will fix the price list now.
    Thank you Griffith for starting this thread , we are all a little bit peeved (classic British understatement ) but it has happened , lets make the best of it . As far as I can tell, the value placed on Karma pts is ~100,000 , that on charms about 200,000 , value of fish 30-40% of previous value .Hard to pin down more exact values until more contracts come in . 
    Once there is enough info, a new strategy can evolve ,  hopefully .:/



    thanks gary, i hope i not be mistaken this time but i calculated 25000 dollars exactly per karma point.
    should be easy now to calculate fish/chum prices exactly now :)
  • garybaldy (GB1)garybaldy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 502
    Thank you, that's a good start :)
  • Updated the prices, these ones should be 99.9% correct i think :)
    Still need more feedback/screenshot on Oyster, Lobster, Herring and Shrimp though.
    and many other remaining chum types :)
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    I have an oyster/clam/karma.... will that help?

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