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  • Thanks :-) Yes, narrow down the list, but at the same time makes it more difficult.
    All members can vote for upgrade and all members can donate for upgrading. And that is not good if there is something we absolutely not will upgrade. It happens anyway. And there is no way to find out who did it. Therefor the leader should be able to block donations and upgrades. Maybe more easy than making lists on who did what.
  • Uncle John (AU1)Uncle John (AU1) AU1 Posts: 10,201
    I agree entirely.
    The current set-up is a disaster waiting to happen.
    We have appointed "Village Managers" who start things and we are blessed with a fabulous team who don't.
    but it could so easily be a nightmare. I like the idea of being able to block upgrades.

       
  • Thanks :-) I think a lot of leaders agree. It is a nightmare when you have a vision and your coop is going good. And suddenly... It isn´t. So we are looking forward to one or two new gadgets here :-)
    If we can block upgrades , it is more easy to direct donations into what the coop wants to upgrade next. I think it will work out just fine :-)
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    I agree, too.  Even though new members are told what is expected in the Village, things get messed up, anyway.  We're going through that right now, and we haven't been able to figure out who did what or why.  Now everyone is feeling suspicious -- and we're a happy, laid back coop.  Hate it.

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  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    edited 04.02.2018
     If I can see how long ago was the most recent donation in the ring menu, I can prevent break cost more easily.  Opening windows takes longer than a ring menu.  
  • Artful - so agree with you :-) Hope we can get the gadget really soon :-)

    dchen1 - Hiihi, then you have something to do when you are waiting for things to grow and get ready? I always take that round when I harvest the farm In the morning and am in the village to take care of the horse and fill up the boat :-) Once ever 24 h is enough for each factory. In our coop a number of members do donations every day, and that keeps the cost down.
  • Please hurry on the gadget to block donations / upgrades in the village. Our coop is in for a disaster! Someone donates every day even though we ask everyone not to,- every day.
    See it on the breakcosts. Staying at 1% = someone donates more than every 24 hours.
    So please?
  • julie4 (GB1)julie4 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 2
    i think it would be a good idea to have an ACCEPT or DECLINE button for village challenges
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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    i think it would be a good idea to have an ACCEPT or DECLINE button for village challenges
    Yes, yes, and yes.  Frankly, we'd like an "opt out" button from the thing altogether.
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  • Uncle John (AU1)Uncle John (AU1) AU1 Posts: 10,201
    Accept or decline wouldn't work. This is a ladder competition, you could effectively prevent some co-op that was much, much better than you from moving up. It would have to be a "You Win" button giving them a bye.
    (but all you really have to do is choose to ignore the challenge and just farm normally)

       
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    Accept or decline wouldn't work. This is a ladder competition, you could effectively prevent some co-op that was much, much better than you from moving up. It would have to be a "You Win" button giving them a bye.
    (but all you really have to do is choose to ignore the challenge and just farm normally)
    Well, maybe that "decline" button would move them up automatically -- a little different than the "You Win" button which would garner them points as well.  We just farm normally, and win a few now and then. Since its inception, we probably dropped just 10-20 points without lifting a finger. :)

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  • holidayrox (US1)holidayrox (US1) US1 Posts: 328
    Please hurry on the gadget to block donations / upgrades in the village. Our coop is in for a disaster! Someone donates every day even though we ask everyone not to,- every day.
    See it on the breakcosts. Staying at 1% = someone donates more than every 24 hours.
    So please?
    okay, I am a little confused now. Why would it matter if someone donates to the buildings? Keeping the break costs below 1% is what you WANT. As long as no one starts the upgrade, it really doesn't hurt anything to donate to a building. 
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  • Uncle John (AU1)Uncle John (AU1) AU1 Posts: 10,201
    Please hurry on the gadget to block donations / upgrades in the village. Our coop is in for a disaster! Someone donates every day even though we ask everyone not to,- every day.
    See it on the breakcosts. Staying at 1% = someone donates more than every 24 hours.
    So please?
    okay, I am a little confused now. Why would it matter if someone donates to the buildings? Keeping the break costs below 1% is what you WANT. As long as no one starts the upgrade, it really doesn't hurt anything to donate to a building. 
    I agree with you but the sting is in your last sentence "As long as no one starts the upgrade". Once it is fully donated this is a very easy mistake for someone to make, the game drives you to vote and automatically starts the upgrade once there are enough votes  :¬(
    We compromise by donating 1 nail per day but the ability to block either the upgrade or the donations would save a lot of agro and stress.

       
  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    I agree, If I dont get enough village happiness, I will not donate lots of materials, but I will donate 1 material to prevent break cost because when there is about 100000 nails in an upgrade, 1% would be 1000 nails.  
  • Lylu (INT1)Lylu (INT1) INT1 Posts: 448
    As far as I have seen Break Costs % only applys to the amount you have already donated. 

    If you have completed the amount requested for an item break cost do not apply to that item.

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    edited 15.04.2018
    I second this. We also have a system in place, but the voting negates all controlled growth. Members are reminded not to vote, but accidents happen. We had an upgrade start that threw everything else off kilter. The voting system makes no sense when only about a third of the membership can decide against the majority.

    It also forces the leaders to monitor the facilities constantly to try to control this ("try" being the operative word as there is no control within the system as it's set up now), and it is one major pain in the backside.
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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    edited 10.11.2018
    Could we please know who votes to upgrade in the Village.?

    After talking with other coop leaders, this is a problem for a lot of us. Even though members are asked not to vote to upgrade a building or pond in the Village (risking the possibility of messing up scheduling, or doing an upgrade that isn't necessary), invariably, people continue to vote, either because they are loose cannons who think they know better than everyone else, or they do it by accident.

    It would be an enormous help if when any votes are cast to upgrade, it shows up in chat like it did for who started a VL challenge, when someone makes a donation, or the upcoming change to the VF allowing this feature.

    Thanks.
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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    edited 11.10.2018
    Do we even need that feature (vote to upgrade)? Maybe removing it would be better?! It is more a bother and headache then anything else. Undermines the co-ops plans.

    Cheers :) 
    Good point. We really don't need it. 33% does not a majority make. But, I was thinking that showing in chat who voted might be easier and quicker to fix than eliminating the vote -- eliminating would be ideal, though. :)
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  • "It would be an enormous help if when any votes are cast to upgrade, it shows up in chat like it did for who started a VL challenge, when someone makes a donation, or the upcoming change to the VF allowing this feature."

    Totally agree, artful.  
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    Show us who vote who start things
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602

    Yeah, its fairly impossible to plan/manage those constructions, we have been trying to messages about everything and plan everything, but it always get started

    due to having a minimal amount of vote needed, so lots of people just clicks by default without looking/caring much :)

    its really disliked here as well ( it seems connected to losing the facility for 3+ days )

    Which lets be honest, is a little rough :)


  • The anonymous way a player can start an upgrade in the village definitely dampens team spirit.  We have experienced many problems because of it.  It would be nice if it was revealed in the chat line as is other activities. 

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  • Absolutely agree with this idea! I am becoming VERY frustrated with the inefficiency of this in our co-op village. 

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  • Absolutely, yes!  Please make this information known in the game!!!  We send notice to all new members about upgrades being decided and started by our deputies, but it is NOT heeded and we need to know who is doing what. Yes, accidents happen, but we have had repeat offenders. At least the co-op founder should have access to this information.

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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    You may want to send out a message to all your members not to vote on the buildings. Once a building has all it's votes the upgrade will start on it's own. That is what we had to do and it is working great.
    It takes more than sending out messages --- new members, disgruntled members, forgetful members -- can all mess things up regardless of how many messages you send out.
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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,584
    The anonymous way a player can start an upgrade in the village definitely dampens team spirit.  We have experienced many problems because of it.  It would be nice if it was revealed in the chat line as is other activities. 
    Yes it would! I agree with an earlier post that the voting system for upgrades should be removed, but until then, knowing who votes would help a lot.
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  • Only a deputy or coop leader can start a research or project, the same should be for upgrades or construction in the village.  We are experiencing a lot of problems with upgrades in the village and have no way of knowing who is creating these problems.  This is extremely frustrating.  Please...Big Farm...change this!!!

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  • Did this every go any where? This is such a problem for new users. We explain rules to new members but they "accidentally" start the donation process.  Then its left to the others to maintain.  They start it, donate and then ghost out on the whole project. 

    Thanks for listening.. 
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