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Please, give a real chance to all of the coop from the gold league for the first place

Hy guys,

I really don't know what is the situation on other servers, but on mine (Ro1) things are definitively going in the wrong direction.

Since the first competition in which appeared for the first time the voting system until now, our server had an unique winner.

The same coop over and over again. They've won 8 ducks coop and they've built on their farms between 1 and 3.

Now they have 10 in row victories....and all the other coop don't have any chance for the top spot, because they put tons of gold (nothing wrong with this...don't understand me wrong).

But if a car for example costs 20000$ and you should pay 50000$ to obtain it , does it worth it at that price? No wright?

The same goes here...they put so much money in the game that really doesn't worth it to challenge them, leaving the other players with a bitter taste in their mouth.

Since Big farm is after all a business, I propose a solution that's simple and very easy to implement. This will bring you more money dear GGS (that's really what you want, wright?....so go ahead please) but will also give the other coops a real chance for the first place.

You already have the software...it's really simple...we have the voting system , wright (100%, 80% and 40%)

If a coop makes it three in a row (victories), the next competition , they will be automatically put in the 80% mode.

You just have to put a counter for the victories .. that's all. If the counter shows 3, this will override the votes of the players.

So the fourth and eventually the fifth competition for the winning coop will be in 80%

If they fail to win the fourth or the fifth, they will be back to 100%, but if they make 5 in a row, from the sixth competition, they will be automatically put in the 40% mode, and will play in that mode until they will lose and thus bring back to 100% when it happens that.

If they are so good and if they have so much money, than let them really show this!!

You GGS will win more money from them if they try to defend their first place, but all the other coop will have a greater chance to beat them.

My solution is S.M.I.L.E. back to other players:

S - simple to implement

M- much fair system

I - Invite players to action again

L - Leave the frustrations accumulated in the past

E - Enjoy the game again.

Thank you for reading, supporting and hopefully implementing my idea!





clinn @ ro 1
Retired since September 2020
Leader of "My time"



Comments

  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 13.01.2017
    Very good opening post @clinn (RO1). Thank you!  :+1:

    I think your so called voting system of 100%, 80% and 40% might be a solution - even if needed some more fine tuning - and should be taken into consideration by the developing/technical Team of GGS!

    A competition is no competition in my opinion when one can tell on beforehand who is going to win it.


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  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    Eventhough  my coop is far from getting into a gold legue, I love the idea.  It makes the CC more chalenging and fair at the same time.  
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    You are right @clinn (RO1), although I do believe GGS will never ever be able to stop some players "from stealing the pleasure of the game by monopolizing a certain feature of it with huge amounts of money", as you put it ....  

    but I do believe GGS could build in a system which would prevent these players from doing it, and avoid repetition!


    Sig designed by farmerjohn 22 (US1). THX!!

     

  • old_man (RO1)old_man (RO1) Posts: 2
    edited 13.01.2017
    Hi clinn,

    I think I understand your concerns.
    But why you want to be the first, to be the number one without a great effort, without spending a lot of time and money?
    This is a strategy game...but what is your strategy? How to be number 1 without money?
    You just want that duck and that apple?!

    Perhaps GGS can create a rule for the rest of coops to win these.

    But ... the number one ... if you want this you have to pay (again, I mean time and money), you and your colleagues.
    This is very simple.

    In real life I can't have my dream house, my dream car. Why? Who is guilty? Only me, just me, because I am not able to make more money!
    Yes, this is so simple, no money no funny!

    Also, we are not equals!
    I can do 40 million reputation points ... but I think you can't. Why?
    Because I am able do this with money, a little strategy and a lot, A LOT of help from my colleagues.
    My colleagues from my coop and from OTHER coops.
    This is about a little strategy and a GREAT, GREAT help from my team.
    T E A M.
    Team is more important than money.
    So, first of all you have to create a GREAT team, then you can talk about the money.

    This is only my opinion.

    All the best,
    old_man









    Post edited by old_man (RO1) on
  • old_man (RO1)old_man (RO1) Posts: 2
    edited 13.01.2017
    Jiesta, with all respect, what are we talking about here?

    " ... with only very hard working & planning the right strategy (a strategy developed by only skills and brain cells - nót by huge amounts of money, I mean)..."

    This is not a chess game.

    Regarding my arguments:
    1. In real life, in general, to be number 1 you have to pay (including money) or others will pay for you if you are special or a genius.
     2. In virtual life, as in this game ...  team, time and money, in this order

    Also, to win that event, yes, you need a great team.
    But this team must have great farms, not all but many.
    To have a great farm you have to use money.

    I saw a lot of colleagues from my team or others with very strong farms.They have used a lot of gold to create them and now they can play only with "some" money.

    If you take a look at rankings you will see only a few of us with millions of reputation points in a competition.
    So, money are not everything.

    @clinn: next time I will play without the money (only some pennies) and maybe my colleagues will do the same...but I'm sorry, we will still be No. 1.
    Because every time we have a strategy.

    @Tiggergirl77: "...it is very discouraging to put so much in and get NOTHING out of it."
    I agree with you.



    Thanks,
    old_man












  • This is NOT AT ALL about not granting someone / anyone to win this competition - this whole thread is about it being over and over and over and over again the same one who wins.
    First cause is the mentality of that coop or some players in that coop (they want to win at all 'costs' and don't grant anyone else the glory - even if it is for the thousandth time)

    What would that same coop want to do with tons and tons of huge 'Dandy Duck Coops'?? Wouldn't it be much more of a real and fair competition if one couldn't predict beforehand who would win again, and again, and next time again?

    I for one do respect the winner of a competition who won because of hard work & the right planning FAR MORE than the winner who bought him/herself the way to the top. The first has every right to brag about it IMHO, the latter doesn't. Nobody disputes anyone's right to use gold as GGS has added this possibility to the game, but it really comes across ridiculous to use tons and tons of money for just a game - only to always win everything - and then being this arrogant about it ...
    I agree, Jiesta 100% with this.... I for one would be embarrassed to be in a coop that always had to come in first. and it's not like others haven't tried .....  no matter how many rep points are gained in a challenge that top coop always has to push it and make however many more million reps than 2nd place.......... THAT to me is selfish and inconsiderate. they know EXACTLY what they are doing and IMHO it is disgraceful to their character. There is NO PRIDE in that type of thing.
    Tiggergirl77 @ us 1
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Well the number ones always have to be number one and it wasnt bc of the prizes  it is EGO  and I like his idea  too that should really get the gold flowing into GGS coffers but really dont think much will change they will just have to dig a lil deeper and GGS will come up with an extra bag or to  special offer to help them.
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627

    Hy guys,

    I really don't know what is the situation on other servers, but on mine (Ro1) things are definitively going in the wrong direction.

    Since the first competition in which appeared for the first time the voting system until now, our server had an unique winner.

    The same coop over and over again. They've won 8 ducks coop and they've built on their farms between 1 and 3.

    Now they have 10 in row victories....and all the other coop don't have any chance for the top spot, because they put tons of gold (nothing wrong with this...don't understand me wrong).

    But if a car for example costs 20000$ and you should pay 50000$ to obtain it , does it worth it at that price? No wright?

    The same goes here...they put so much money in the game that really doesn't worth it to challenge them, leaving the other players with a bitter taste in their mouth.

    Since Big farm is after all a business, I propose a solution that's simple and very easy to implement. This will bring you more money dear GGS (that's really what you want, wright?....so go ahead please) but will also give the other coops a real chance for the first place.

    You already have the software...it's really simple...we have the voting system , wright (100%, 80% and 40%)

    If a coop makes it three in a row (victories), the next competition , they will be automatically put in the 80% mode.

    You just have to put a counter for the victories .. that's all. If the counter shows 3, this will override the votes of the players.

    So the fourth and eventually the fifth competition for the winning coop will be in 80%

    If they fail to win the fourth or the fifth, they will be back to 100%, but if they make 5 in a row, from the sixth competition, they will be automatically put in the 40% mode, and will play in that mode until they will lose and thus bring back to 100% when it happens that.

    If they are so good and if they have so much money, than let them really show this!!

    You GGS will win more money from them if they try to defend their first place, but all the other coop will have a greater chance to beat them.

    My solution is S.M.I.L.E. back to other players:

    S - simple to implement

    M- much fair system

    I - Invite players to action again

    L - Leave the frustrations accumulated in the past

    E - Enjoy the game again.

    Thank you for reading, supporting and hopefully implementing my idea!





    Awesome Idea Clinn
    Hope GGS implements it:))) for it atleast would give a good chance for the other coops:)))
  • daniel fermier (RO1)daniel fermier (RO1) RO1 Posts: 546
    edited 14.01.2017
     

    Old man defends their Cooperative. And it's about the cooperative which is always on server 1 RO1!
    That is why his message is only against clinn.
    @old_man , you are right, you are not now all players who put tons of money to get what they want in the game. But there were over time. Now you have enough seats available and have lived a good portion from other players in cooperative. And your score is just as great.
    Isn't it something unclean in the Middle? A player at you from the cooperative once said .. as long as play it, no COOPERATIVE WILL NOT TAKE place WITHIN us. I won't say anything about it, I won't judge. I did it once and got some very ugly insults about everything he could name only. :( And guess who. .. everything from a few players from the top spot to this cooperative CC. This shows that aren't as fair as it is I think. And do not deserve to be so high in CC with that I concluded to say anything about the cooperative.
    Unfortunately, EGOS are very high which is why unions will not 1, let others take their place. ..
    And as long as you stick to these cooperatives GGS thousands euros in your Pocket/competition s. ..  won't have anything to say.

    Sincerely, Daniel @RO1

    Post edited by daniel fermier (RO1) on
  • Gut Landluft (DE1)Gut Landluft (DE1) DE1 Posts: 8,963
    you wrote, that always the same team win the coop over and over
    I'm on the DE server and my team also win all times

    have you look on the farm of the winners: are there red duck coops?

    we often play with 40% and win, that will nothing change
    there is a great spacing to the second team in coop
    I don't know how to change the conditions


    strategy: make a full-member team with 75 players where each one loves the coop challenge

    Win10 (64 bit) mit  SRWareIron Version 90.0.4600.0 (Offizieller Build) (64-Bit)
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    This is NOT AT ALL about not granting someone / anyone to win this competition - this whole thread is about it being over and over and over and over again the same one who wins.
    First cause is the mentality of that coop or some players in that coop (they want to win at all 'costs' and don't grant anyone else the glory - even if it is for the thousandth time)

    What would that same coop want to do with tons and tons of huge 'Dandy Duck Coops'?? Wouldn't it be much more of a real and fair competition if one couldn't predict beforehand who would win again, and again, and next time again?

    I for one do respect the winner of a competition who won because of hard work & the right planning FAR MORE than the winner who bought him/herself the way to the top. The first has every right to brag about it IMHO, the latter doesn't. Nobody disputes anyone's right to use gold as GGS has added this possibility to the game, but it really comes across ridiculous to use tons and tons of money for just a game - only to always win everything - and then being this arrogant about it ...
    I agree, Jiesta 100% with this.... I for one would be embarrassed to be in a coop that always had to come in first. and it's not like others haven't tried .....  no matter how many rep points are gained in a challenge that top coop always has to push it and make however many more million reps than 2nd place.......... THAT to me is selfish and inconsiderate. they know EXACTLY what they are doing and IMHO it is disgraceful to their character. There is NO PRIDE in that type of thing.
    Here here! My thoughts exactly.......the ugliness this coop challenge event brings out is partly GGS's fault because of its setup but the people that choose to buy wins and cheat have bad character and this type of gameplay is the reason this event has become a joke.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] gizmo22 @ au 1
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Well if all the number one teams from each sever played against each other that would be interesting I would love to see that maybe that should be the change all the gold numbers one play each other  that sure would open things up for all wouldnt it. 

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