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Where is LESTER?

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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I see that my post about Lester was removed.  I am being charged more than other players and I do not understand this.  Lester is a part of the financial construct of the game.  I am right to be concerned when other players get him, as promised by GGS, every several months.  It has been 10 months.  GGS needs to divulge why I they are singling me out and treating me differently than other players. 
  • This is not acceptable.  GGS must consider that possibly the formula has a flaw.  I will continue to bring this up.  This is a part of the financial construct of the game.  I am being charged more than other players and this is not appropriate.  You can keep moving it, but I will keep posting in the most current areas.

    I play every part of this game possible, so this is not true, when you say that I am not satisfying some condition of a formula.  If I am failing to play the game properly, then you need to inform me of that.
    @gavinfarms (US1) I do understand your frustration, but please do not threaten to disrupt the forum. Posting on this thread will make it as "current" as any other & we will continue to move off topic posts to where they belong.

    As I said, if Marowit cannot tell you answers that you want, no one here will be able to either, no matter how many times you ask, if we could, we would have done so by now. 
  • Spurgiukas (INT1)Spurgiukas (INT1) INT1 Posts: 235
    after I spent all my gold I had and stopped buying it, Lester showed on my farm after few weeks and kept coming every 2 weeks. also I was getting good gold offers more often 200% 150% 100%...but then.. I bought some gold again...,and Lester has forgotten me again :( 
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 06.07.2017
    This is not acceptable.  GGS must consider that possibly the formula has a flaw.  I will continue to bring this up.  This is a part of the financial construct of the game.  I am being charged more than other players and this is not appropriate.  You can keep moving it, but I will keep posting in the most current areas.

    I play every part of this game possible, so this is not true, when you say that I am not satisfying some condition of a formula.  If I am failing to play the game properly, then you need to inform me of that.
    @gavinfarms (US1) I do understand your frustration, but please do not threaten to disrupt the forum. Posting on this thread will make it as "current" as any other & we will continue to move off topic posts to where they belong.

    As I said, if Marowit cannot tell you answers that you want, no one here will be able to either, no matter how many times you ask, if we could, we would have done so by now. 

    I am not threatening to disrupt the forum.  Please do not misstate my intentions. 

    Also, you can say more.   You have devised a formula, which you claim works.  But no one knows if it does actually work, because it is a secret.  GGS said he should be coming more often, not me.  That came from you all.

    Your formula is failing in some way.  If you cannot state that, then I must assume that GGS has decided to punish me, purposefully, as an individual.  I must assume that you all are mad at me and are punishing me.  There is no other logical explanation for this.


    If you look at any of my posts, I hardly ever criticize GGS unless it has introduced an unfair element in the game or unless disrupted the previous flow of the game.  At the moment that you all address the Lester problem, I will be happy to acknowledge that.


    But you cannot state with certainty that there is no flaw in your formula.  And you keep stating that Marowit has provided a sufficient answer.  He/she has not.  If the formula actually works properly, then I can be given a better answer without divulging everything.


    You are charging me more money for gold than other players and this is wrong.
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 06.07.2017
    You are now actually deleting entire posts.  This strikes me as crossing a line.


    You are charging me a higher price than other players and I should be concerned by this.


    @gavinfarms (US1) None of your posts have been deleted, if you check "Comments" on your profile you can always find the current location of your posts. | Wabbit
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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    My last post was deleted by GGS.  This seems wrong!
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 06.07.2017
    @gavinfarms (US1)

    I do not know GGS secred formula, but using some common sence and logic, one can come to this very simple conlcusion:
    1. GGS wants to sell gold.
    2. If players are prepeared to pay the higher price (without discounts, Lester, deals), GGS will sell it for the higher price
    3. If this does not work, GGS will give discounts to those that did not buy gold, to lurke them into buying some.

    So, the conclusion; if you buy gold on regular basis, do not expect Lester to come to visit you. 
    The question is: how long are you prepeared to wait before buying gold? Can you sustain yourself from using gold if it runs out or even if it does not run out? Here is where secret formula comes into the play. GGS probably has a good analysis in custom habits and nows "ideal" time to wait to maximize the number of buyers that are not patient enough and buy gold beforehand on one side and the number of patients buyers that buy only when Lester is around on the othe side.
    Seemingly you drop into the first category. So if you want to see Lester come frequently to your farm, you have to be patient and sustain yourself from buying (and using - mind you, this may also be the part of the formula) gold for some time. The question is: how long are you prepeared to wait?




  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    what did you say?

  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I have gathered data from many players.  Some buy gold monthly (or more often) and get him frequently.  Others hardly ever buy gold and get him. 


    I agree that perhaps GGS intends for the frequency to be a factor, but evidence proves that it is not.

    I have done a lot of research.

    Their formula seems to be failing to work.  That is the only reasonable option left.

    I am very disturbed by the fact that every time that I bring this up, they start deleting my posts and trying to cover-up my concerns.
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I brought up the problem with Lester not coming.  Every time I bring this up, they start trying to cover it up.  I have done extensive research with many players.  The formula is clearly not working.  It has been 10 months.  I simply want to be treated fairly and charged the same for gold as other players.  I fail to see what is so radical about that.
  • My last post was deleted by GGS.  This seems wrong!
    Hey @gavinfarms (US1) your posts were not deleted but moved to the proper thread. Please post in the correct threads to keep them on topic. Thank you!
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 07.07.2017
    @gavinfarms (US1)

    Do yourself and all of us a favor and keep the threads on topic, please Bidden Smileys Smileys en emoticons Smeekgebedje Bidden... this behavior to run around all over the forum to vent your frustration on every actual thread, complaining constantly about Lester just to force GGS to reveal their secrets will not work.

    You can use the 'where is Lester' thread (which became almost 'your own thread') to repeat all your moaning as often as you want, but you've got several answers from different people already, so that will not help much either IMHO. It may not be what you want to hear from them, but you can't force them to reveal things...

    Lester comes and goes as he pleases; he visits my farms almost every 3 weeks (but I didn't see him in his first 3 months), and other players do have longer breaks between his visits, some may not have seen him for even 1 year. That's how the mechanics work behind the 'Lester phenomenon'. GGS has implemented a certain formula and that is and remains secret for us - and rightly so! This game is full of surprises, secrets and challenges and this is one of them (whether he comes or not?) 

    Comparable are the the goodies-mails we can receive when a new game element has been launched: they are sent randomly, somebody receives it, somebody else doesn't. That's how the game is set up - it's what it is.

    Shoot me - but I really do not think enforcing behavior will change GGS' mind and/or will help you. And I am absolutely convinced that GGS doesn't single out 1 person out of millions only to bully him/her! IMHO it's really ridiculous to think that! GGS is not trying to cover anything up and your posts haven't been deleted, they have only been moved to the correct thread (again rightly so).

    Please keep the threads on topic!   :)

    just my 2 cents ...
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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 07.07.2017
    @gavinfarms (US1)

    Do yourself and all of us a favor and keep the threads on topic, please Bidden Smileys Smileys en emoticons Smeekgebedje Bidden... this behavior to run around all over the forum to vent your frustration on every actual thread, complaining constantly about Lester just to force GGS to reveal their secrets will not work.

    You can use the 'where is Lester' thread (which became almost 'your own thread') to repeat all your moaning as often as you want, but you've got several answers from different people already, so that will not help much either IMHO. It may not be what you want to hear from them, but you can't force them to reveal things...

    Lester comes and goes as he pleases; he visits my farms almost every 3 weeks (but I didn't see him in his first 3 months), and other players do have longer breaks between his visits, some may not have seen him for even 1 year. That's how the mechanics work behind the 'Lester phenomenon'. GGS has implemented a certain formula and that is and remains secret for us - and rightly so! This game is full of surprises and challenges and this is one of them (whether he comes or not?) ....

    Comparable are the the goodies-mails we can receive when a new game element has been launched: they are sent randomly, somebody receives it, somebody else doesn't. That's how the game is set up - it's what it is.

    Shoot me - but I really do not think enforcing behavior will change GGS' mind and/or help you. And I am absolutely convinced that GGS doesn't single out 1 person out of millions only to bully him/her! IMHO it's really ridiculous to think that! GGs is not trying to cover anything up and your posts haven't been deleted, they have only been moved to the correct thread (again rightly so).

    Please keep the threads on topic!  :)

    just my 2 cents ...

    I am just trying to live in the world that GGS created.  GGS stated that his visits would average every 51 days.  I never came up with that number.  I understand (and it would be acceptable), if randomness caused this to be 60, 70, or some rational number of days, but we are at over 300 days now. 

    For example, if there is a town with precisely 70 children in it and the local barber cuts 7 heads of hair, every day, randomly, every child would get a hair cut roughly every 10 days.  If, however, one child did not get a hair cut for 200 days, the barber would likely notice this and correct this, because the randomizing would have failed that child.  The randomizing has failed GGS.

    It is possible to flip a coin 100 times in a row and get only heads.  This is what GGS is asking us to believe.  It is also possible that their formula is flawed.  But there refuse to consider that.

    Are they singling me out?  I have always doubted that.  However, when you can never get an answer out of of someone, you begin to wonder.  So, in the past, I have always thought they were not, but I am not sure any more.  The amount of variance here from any expected or rational number is getting too large to be coincidence.

    I simply want a fair game.  There sales built into the game.  Deals come and go.  There is an expectation that everybody will take advantage of some of them.  GGS wrote me a note (months ago), explaining that Lester is a part of their financial model.  They expect everyone to receive visits from Lester, and that their gold prices are based on that.  I accepted this answer and moved on.  I bought gold with this expectation (lots of gold).  I was quiet about it for a long time, because I thought that what they had told me was true.  I thought that maybe I had not waited long enough.

    The real sadness here, is that whenever I ask about this, I am treated poorly.  There is automatically a hostility by GGS.  They quit answering my questions on any other topic.  I have many questions on this Worldwide Competition, but it is pointless to enter them, because they will just ignore them.  GGS creates the following problem:  In order to "be a part of the group" I have to accept a lower status than other players, and that is extremely disappointing.  So in the sense that they treat me differently than other users, just for bringing this up......in that sense, they are quite definitively singling me out.
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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    Can we ask a serious question about Lester?  This does not divulge the formula......


    Is the formula designed in such a way, that an extremely active farmer might never get Lester?
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    I am an extremely active player and Lester shows up occasionally.

    I really don't understand your fixation with Lester... he does not save you money buying gold... you do not get it cheaper... go for the 2 for 1 deals that pop up... much better deal.

    You are not paying more for gold by not getting Lester... you need to have gold  on hand  or buy gold  when he shows up... and spend your gold to get your gold back...  Last time he visited me (and hopefully never comes back) he wanted me to spend 700K gold in 24 hours and then give that back to me. BUT, I would have had to buy gold at prevailing rates to do this deal... 
    @gavinfarms (US1)  it is a waste of your time in my humble opinion!!
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    JVD (US1) said:
    I am an extremely active player and Lester shows up occasionally.

    I really don't understand your fixation with Lester... he does not save you money buying gold... you do not get it cheaper... go for the 2 for 1 deals that pop up... much better deal.

    You are not paying more for gold by not getting Lester... you need to have gold  on hand  or buy gold  when he shows up... and spend your gold to get your gold back...  Last time he visited me (and hopefully never comes back) he wanted me to spend 700K gold in 24 hours and then give that back to me. BUT, I would have had to buy gold at prevailing rates to do this deal... 
    @gavinfarms (US1)  it is a waste of your time in my humble opinion!!
    Not true, JVD; Lester is awesome, WAY better than 2-for-1 (maybe even better than 3-for-1, which I get sometimes.. It depends on how much Lester wants you to spend, and how much you would need to buy to take advantage of the deal). :)

    Look at it like this:

    If you go to an arcade, they have a deal, "Buy $10 worth of tokens, get $10 worth of tokens free!" - That's the standard 2-for-1 deal.

    But the arcade across the street has a deal, "Buy $10 worth of tokens, get $1,000 worth of tokens free! (but you have to use them all in ONE DAY).. That's more along the lines of a Lester type deal. :)

    If you use the gold right, spending it on stuff that you can ONLY use gold on (like upgrading the doghouse, buying/upgrading water towers, upgrading the nursery, upgrading the greenhouse, etc.) then you essentially get all those purchases & upgrades "for free".  You might be able to get 100,000 gold worth of upgrades, but only have to "buy" $20 worth of gold (cuz face it, Lester almost always makes you buy SOME gold to use his deal). :)

    Once you know how much Lester wants you to spend, and how much you would need to buy, you can calculate it out as to whether it's a better than a 2-for-1 deal (which it probably always is, so long as you spend the required amount of gold in time).

    Personally, I haven't seen Lester in probably a year, but I don't really care. I'm happy with the occasional 2-for-1 deals when I need gold, although I certainly wouldn't turn Lester down if he decided to visit me someday. :)

  • T.O.P (INT1)T.O.P (INT1) INT1 Posts: 247
    JVD (US1) said:
    I am an extremely active player and Lester shows up occasionally.

    I really don't understand your fixation with Lester... he does not save you money buying gold... you do not get it cheaper... go for the 2 for 1 deals that pop up... much better deal.

    You are not paying more for gold by not getting Lester... you need to have gold  on hand  or buy gold  when he shows up... and spend your gold to get your gold back...  Last time he visited me (and hopefully never comes back) he wanted me to spend 700K gold in 24 hours and then give that back to me. BUT, I would have had to buy gold at prevailing rates to do this deal... 
    @gavinfarms (US1)  it is a waste of your time in my humble opinion!!
    Not true, JVD; Lester is awesome, WAY better than 2-for-1 (maybe even better than 3-for-1, which I get sometimes.. It depends on how much Lester wants you to spend, and how much you would need to buy to take advantage of the deal). :)

    Look at it like this:

    If you go to an arcade, they have a deal, "Buy $10 worth of tokens, get $10 worth of tokens free!" - That's the standard 2-for-1 deal.

    But the arcade across the street has a deal, "Buy $10 worth of tokens, get $1,000 worth of tokens free! (but you have to use them all in ONE DAY).. That's more along the lines of a Lester type deal. :)

    If you use the gold right, spending it on stuff that you can ONLY use gold on (like upgrading the doghouse, buying/upgrading water towers, upgrading the nursery, upgrading the greenhouse, etc.) then you essentially get all those purchases & upgrades "for free".  You might be able to get 100,000 gold worth of upgrades, but only have to "buy" $20 worth of gold (cuz face it, Lester almost always makes you buy SOME gold to use his deal). :)

    Once you know how much Lester wants you to spend, and how much you would need to buy, you can calculate it out as to whether it's a better than a 2-for-1 deal (which it probably always is, so long as you spend the required amount of gold in time).

    Personally, I haven't seen Lester in probably a year, but I don't really care. I'm happy with the occasional 2-for-1 deals when I need gold, although I certainly wouldn't turn Lester down if he decided to visit me someday. :)

    I agree with you south...:)
    lester is still the best....that's why they don't wanna give out the formula on how to trigger lester...:)
  • sarinc (NL1)sarinc (NL1) NL1 Posts: 87
    Well Lester is visiting your farms, by me and coop members we haven't seen Lester more than a year ago. Maybe even longer.
    There is said he comes and goes as he pleases but he all ways skips my farm and from some coop members.

  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    I haven't seen Lester in forever either.  I can't even recall the last time i did see him.
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    Hey I didn't get lester  will u guys tell me how and when he will visit the farm :'(
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    Well I'll be darn, guess who just showed up on my farm!  I can't believe it.  Wants me to fulfill customer orders :smiley:  
  • Lester has not returned to my farm is more than a month.  Im waiting for him but, it seam to ignore me  :'(:'(:'(  
  • Lester has not returned to my farm is more than a month.  Im waiting for him but, it seam to ignore me  :'(:'(:'(  
    It seems like he brings his histrionics to my farm at least once a week and I've never used him even once. He creeps me out and I can't kick him off my farm fast enough.
  • I never seen lester in my farm. I have to fill 10 neighbours orders then lester will appear or when lester came then i have to fill neighbours orders? Please tell guys 
  • Cow Ziggy (INT1)Cow Ziggy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 27
    edited 16.09.2017
    on 30/08/2017 Mr Lester ran off with the 65000 gold he asked for...still waiting for GGS to refund me. .. or do they think the 10 fuku coins will cover that ???



    [Resolved]
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  • nola1 (INT1)nola1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 188
    Lester is on my farm now and I'm scared to take up his offer in case he does the same to me as he did to my co-op mate above.  I wonder if it's safe to help him out?
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    I do the customers and take the $$ every time he visits but never do the gold.
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    Lester is on my farm now and I'm scared to take up his offer in case he does the same to me as he did to my co-op mate above.  I wonder if it's safe to help him out?
    I do the customers and take the $$ every time he visits but never do the gold.

    I do exactly the same thing - do the customers 10x and cash the $$ he gives me for the effort, but never do the gold - just like Uncle John describes. By leaving Lester standing idle on my farm, I would deny myself the $$ bonus and I don't want to miss out on anything that provides me money  :p
  • Lester is on my farm now and I'm scared to take up his offer in case he does the same to me as he did to my co-op mate above.  I wonder if it's safe to help him out?
    @nola1 (INT1)  His timer does appear to be working correctly now. He has been on my farm for 20 hours & has not run off yet & one of the mods from another forum said that he completed the 24 hours on his farm last night with no problems. :)
  • nola1 (INT1)nola1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 188
    thanks guys, he's gone ... without any gold   :D 
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