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Disagree Button

I have seen it commented on in an existing thread but not sure if it will get much attention there so giving it a thread.  The disagree button is really a negative on the forum and I think we can all agree there is already enough of that.  People are quick to click disagree but that really doesn't give any  information as to what they are disagreeing with, and they tend not to post a reply just click and move on.  The disagree lets people be mean incognito, but it doesn't stop it from causing hurt feeling.  More likely it will cause them to avoid posting in the future.    The agree button gets used and people usually also post a comment and expand on the idea or comment. Agree button also encourages people to share more ideas, the disagree button shuts people down

If there is a way to remove that button please do. 
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  • Drat I REALLY wanted to Disagree, just cos its so tempting lolol... But I agree 100%. :)

    I don`t see the necessity for a disagree button at all (for all the reasons Monica already said) & would feel the same way if there was a "dislike" button.
  • Lesley52 (GB1)Lesley52 (GB1) Posts: 1,590
    I have seen it commented on in an existing thread but not sure if it will get much attention there so giving it a thread.  The disagree button is really a negative on the forum and I think we can all agree there is already enough of that.  People are quick to click disagree but that really doesn't give any  information as to what they are disagreeing with, and they tend not to post a reply just click and move on.  The disagree lets people be mean incognito, but it doesn't stop it from causing hurt feeling.  More likely it will cause them to avoid posting in the future.    The agree button gets used and people usually also post a comment and expand on the idea or comment. Agree button also encourages people to share more ideas, the disagree button shuts people down

    If there is a way to remove that button please do. 
    I seem to have more disagrees than agrees,lol 
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 19.09.2015
    Fully agree Monica!! :+1:  Let's just take this "disagree" button out. It's no good at all; doesn't serve any purpose! It only gives (perchance malicious) players the ability to stay anonymous and hide behind a button.
    Post edited by Jiesta (NL1) on
  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515
    I posted in the other thread that I don't really like the disagree button either. It may cause hurt feelings knowing someone disagrees with you without knowing why. I think its better to post why you would disagree with someone or just keep on moving. Like I said before, I have not & will not use the disagree button.
  • On another Goodgame forum, someone pressed "disagree" on every post on every thread I made. Unless there's a badge for getting 1000 disagrees, I don't like it at all either.
  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515
    edited 19.09.2015

    There's no badge for disagrees. You can look at the badges at the link below.....

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/badges/


    Edit to add: @Lesley52 You now have more agrees than disagrees and you got a cute little badge too. ;)

  • Lesley52 (GB1)Lesley52 (GB1) Posts: 1,590
    Edit to add: @Lesley52 You now have more agrees than disagrees and you got a cute little badge too.  Thank you @jess_d funny thing is already had agree badge but not profile shows more disagrees than agrees lol Still after name dropper + combi badges lol
  • I disagree.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
     I agree completely that the disagree has to GO! If someone can't post a reply explaining why they disagree, they shouldn't be allowed to disagree anonymously.
  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515
    I disagree.

    Why do you disagree? An explanation would be nice. We're all open to hearing both sides. :)
  • There's no badge for disagrees. You can look at the badges at the link below.....

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/badges/

    Disagree has to go then.

    If there isn't a badge for something then we don't need it. :p


     


  • Example I got a disagree on my original post.  I am guess I have someone who is following me around disagreeing with all my posts now too.  No clue why, I would love for them to send me a private message so we can talk about what I did that upset them so much.  Yes I am sensitive to the disagree button and it gnaws at me that I have upset someone that much.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 19.09.2015
      Yes I am sensitive to the disagree button and it gnaws at me that I have upset someone that much.
    The trouble is, somebody could not be upset with what you've said and still give you a disagree out of spite. I would like to hear a response from one of our CM's to find out if removing the disagree is a possibility in the near future.
        
       

  • monica1230 (US1)monica1230 (US1) Posts: 370
    edited 19.09.2015
    Yes they ares still seeing disagree to every post today.  Not seeing the point in it.  If it displayed the name of who gave you the disagrees I am sure it would change things.  Oh well just another example of the negative the button is encouraging.  Scrolling thru this thread I see I am not the only one who gets a disagree for every post they make. 
  • bablou1 (NL1)bablou1 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 82
    O how petty one can be to stalk somebody and disagree every post they make. 
    Invest your energy in working on your farm or something.
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    Example I got a disagree on my original post.  I am guess I have someone who is following me around disagreeing with all my posts now too.  No clue why, I would love for them to send me a private message so we can talk about what I did that upset them so much.  Yes I am sensitive to the disagree button and it gnaws at me that I have upset someone that much.
    Exactly the same happens to me Monica - somebody disagreeing all my posts, even though there is nothing to disagree about .... particularly cowardly behavior IMO. I firmly agree with you that if the name(s) of who give(s) the disagree(s) would be displayed, things would look very different!
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    I disagree out of apathy.  I didn't know there was a disagree/agree button until this thread... and I still don't care. :)

    -Y
  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 19.09.2015
    I would like to disagree out of sheer boredom and think everyone should disagree, not that they disagree but that they disagree to disagree to every one of these replies, I am even disagreeing with my own post even tho it is not allowed, please lets try to get over 1000 disagrees on my post
  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515

    @Graycat Ashes I agree! If we can't earn a badge we don't need it :) People don't need a tool to just be mean.

    @monica1230 On a positive note, the anonymous disagree-er is proving the point of this thread and how important it is to get rid of that button. ;)


  • Pingo4 (US1)Pingo4 (US1) US1 Posts: 150
    I didn't know about this button until I read this thread.  So I went back to look at some of my posts and found that most of them had one "Disagree" even in cases where there wasn't really anything to disagree with, because I wasn't stating an opinion, just reporting something that had happened.  

    So it seems whatever I say, someone disagrees.  Which for some reason, I find truly hilarious.  Dear anonymous disagree-er, if it amuses you to disagree with everything I say, have at it!  I don't really care.  :p
  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515
    edited 19.09.2015

    Dear Disagree-er,

      I suddenly have 3 more disagrees, one on each post, so I know its the same person. Thank you for your support in proving that the disagree button can be abused. I will let @Latten and @Nafaru know you're simply harassing people. Get a life & grow the hell up!

    Sincerely,

    Jess :)


    PS. Why don't you post & let us know who you are instead of hiding behind a disagree button? Are you afraid of what will happen if we know who you are?

  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    You do all realize that because you are all having such a fuss about this "disagree" button, that some joker is just going along, disagreeing with everyone, simply to PO people and because they can?  Probably never noticed the "disagree" button until it was pointed out in this thread.

    I disagree that it needs to be removed.  Someone disagreeing with your post doesn't mean they hate you or have a personal vendetta against you.  It simply means they disagree with what you said.  (Well, except for Greycat's stalker...that's something else entirely.) 
  • No it was happening before this thread was started.  As I read the forum I see many posts with a disagree where there was nothing to disagree with in the post, basically a disagree that makes no sense unless you are just hitting because of the name attached to it. 
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    No it was happening before this thread was started.  As I read the forum I see many posts with a disagree where there was nothing to disagree with in the post, basically a disagree that makes no sense unless you are just hitting because of the name attached to it. 


    I have to second this word for word!  :+1: 
  • You do all realize that because you are all having such a fuss about this "disagree" button, that some joker is just going along, disagreeing with everyone, simply to PO people and because they can?  Probably never noticed the "disagree" button until it was pointed out in this thread.
    I think that's what happened already, more reason for it to be removed.
    No it was happening before this thread was started.  As I read the forum I see many posts with a disagree where there was nothing to disagree with in the post, basically a disagree that makes no sense unless you are just hitting because of the name attached to it. 
    People even disagree with other people who just answer a question that someone asks on the forum. :p
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 20.09.2015
    Lemme throw in my post that I made in the other thread here as well:

    *rant on*

    I've got one more: get rid of those darn disagree buttons!!! I hate that people press a fricking disagree button to a message in which I simply quoted somebody and said I agree! There is a reason Facebook does not have a dislike button... (Unless they listened to those whiners and added one.) Anyway, the reason is that people can simply click away and ignore if they do not like it and click 'like' if they do! I never click dislike on Youtube because I just don't listen any more and click away. I only click like if I actually really like the video. Nobody is helped by seeing somebody disagreed with them and they have no clue why that was. Let them type they disagree, with a reason, that is much better than these stupid anonymous buttons! Besides, it is a nice way for the less happy kind of people to pester others and ruin their day. Very easy to annoy somebody and stay anonymous...

    And in case somebody wanted to get rid of bad/inappropriate messages by pressing disagree, there is a flag button for that... So no reason for a disagree button!

    Now you may go ahead and disagree with this. Go on, hit the button. It's a nice toy, really. You know you want to...

    *rant off*

    I think we should be nice to eachother and try not to create this negative atmosphere. Dislikes, in my opinion, do create a negative atmospere. And they do not really add anything either. So why have them?

    People who get a dislike may feel really powerless, since they cannot do anything to state their case for the people that disagreed. They also do not know why the other pressed disagree. That feeling can be really bad, especially for those that have hard times in their real lives and came to the forums to have fun and feel a bit of relief from real life pressure. 
  • exactly, if someone wants to disagree, they can say why in a post. :)
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    All right, so I posted a snarky post earlier... which is accurate, but not very helpful.  So here's my actual take on this topic:

    Does "dislike/disagree" promote negativity?  I doubt it.  Here's why I think that.  Using the TV show model, because I've read and seen stuff about it, as well as been a part of various campaigns...  No TV will ever be saved by an 'Email' letter writing campaign.  While a snail mail letter writing campaign with enough support has a chance for success.  Why?  Because it takes little effort to write an email, and click send.  It takes by comparison a LOT of effort to write snail mail, and send it.  Not to mention the cost of a stamp (money talks).  In my opinion the the dislike/disagree button is an even more watered down version of effort.  It carries so little weight, I'm surprised to see that people even pay any attention to it (see my first post).  But I guess that IS the way the modern generation has been brought up. (My daughter tells me daily how many followers she has... sigh.)

    So that brings me to point two.  The dislike/disagree button no more creates bad feelings then the 'like/agree' button.  What?  How?  You might ask.  Two ways, I reply.  Firstly, human nature.  Anyone who is likely to compare dislike/disagrees from post to post, is going to compare like/agrees post to post, and it creates the same sense of competition and bad feelings to the person who got less likes, because of 'views'.  Which leads me to the second part of point two.  If your only options are "Like" and "no response at all", then Views - Likes = Dislikes.  Also human nature.  I would argue that having a like and a dislike (or agree disagree.. actually... I am going to address this in point three) also allows for a 'no opinion' in the form of View - likes - dislikes = No opinion.  The only solution to me in this case, is to either have BOTH like and dislike, or to have neither (this would actually be my preference).  If you don't like something.  Say why... If you do like something, say why...  in the form of a response.

    And thirdly (Actually I didn't have a third when I started, but it came about the point where I stopped typing Like/Agree and Dislike/Disagree).  And that is... there is a substantial difference between like and agree, as well as dislike and disagree.  I am less opposed to agree/disagree than I am to like/dislike.  I agree that dislike IS aggressively opposed.  Not only do you disagree, but you dislike it!  Disagreement is not necessarily a combative stance.  I disagree with my friends on which wine tastes best all the time!  Doesn't make us any less friends.  It only gets combative (usually after several glass of said wines) if someone says, "I don't even like your choice".

    So let me recap... I don't dislike the idea of getting rid of the disagree button.... but I disagree that it will help in any way, without getting rid of the agree as well.  I dislike having ANY simple click response, like/dislike/agree/disagree... including the LOL button, which is harmless.... but since I never look at those I will never know if you LOL'd at my post unless you actually post it...  and I want to know... but only if you LOL'd enough to bother to type it out.  :)

    -Y
  • All right, so I posted a snarky post earlier... which is accurate, but not very helpful.  So here's my actual take on this topic:

    Does "dislike/disagree" promote negativity?  I doubt it.  Here's why I think that.  Using the TV show model, because I've read and seen stuff about it, as well as been a part of various campaigns...  No TV will ever be saved by an 'Email' letter writing campaign.  While a snail mail letter writing campaign with enough support has a chance for success.  Why?  Because it takes little effort to write an email, and click send.  It takes by comparison a LOT of effort to write snail mail, and send it.  Not to mention the cost of a stamp (money talks).  In my opinion the the dislike/disagree button is an even more watered down version of effort.  It carries so little weight, I'm surprised to see that people even pay any attention to it (see my first post).  But I guess that IS the way the modern generation has been brought up. (My daughter tells me daily how many followers she has... sigh.)

    So that brings me to point two.  The dislike/disagree button no more creates bad feelings then the 'like/agree' button.  What?  How?  You might ask.  Two ways, I reply.  Firstly, human nature.  Anyone who is likely to compare dislike/disagrees from post to post, is going to compare like/agrees post to post, and it creates the same sense of competition and bad feelings to the person who got less likes, because of 'views'.  Which leads me to the second part of point two.  If your only options are "Like" and "no response at all", then Views - Likes = Dislikes.  Also human nature.  I would argue that having a like and a dislike (or agree disagree.. actually... I am going to address this in point three) also allows for a 'no opinion' in the form of View - likes - dislikes = No opinion.  The only solution to me in this case, is to either have BOTH like and dislike, or to have neither (this would actually be my preference).  If you don't like something.  Say why... If you do like something, say why...  in the form of a response.

    And thirdly (Actually I didn't have a third when I started, but it came about the point where I stopped typing Like/Agree and Dislike/Disagree).  And that is... there is a substantial difference between like and agree, as well as dislike and disagree.  I am less opposed to agree/disagree than I am to like/dislike.  I agree that dislike IS aggressively opposed.  Not only do you disagree, but you dislike it!  Disagreement is not necessarily a combative stance.  I disagree with my friends on which wine tastes best all the time!  Doesn't make us any less friends.  It only gets combative (usually after several glass of said wines) if someone says, "I don't even like your choice".

    So let me recap... I don't dislike the idea of getting rid of the disagree button.... but I disagree that it will help in any way, without getting rid of the agree as well.  I dislike having ANY simple click response, like/dislike/agree/disagree... including the LOL button, which is harmless.... but since I never look at those I will never know if you LOL'd at my post unless you actually post it...  and I want to know... but only if you LOL'd enough to bother to type it out.  :)

    -Y
    That's assuming that no one would take advantage of the disagree button and that they would actually have a reason to disagree and that they actually could possibly disagree.

    Disagree buttons aren't what forums are for, forums are for discussing things, not pressing disagree on every third post you see.
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    I agree, Yakoska.  If *disagree* goes they all should go.  I never noticed before your post that there is an *agree* and a *like*.  Why? 

    And I did laugh out loud at "usually after several glass of said wines". :)

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