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Organic Market Contracts

Is there any rhyme or reason to what contracts you receive? I ask because I used to have a good variety asking for numerous different items and a nice mix of limited and standard contracts. I since have had a significant reduction of limited contracts (personally I prefer them to raise my contract value higher as I'm not yet 99.) Also, I seem to be getting TONS of the same item asked for and I haven't been making any large amounts prior to it either. For example, yesterday I had 5 contracts in a row that asked for wildflowers, of the 5 four were one order ones and the last was with one other item. Since my value stands at high 70s (and I'm only a level 68 farmer) I didn't wanted to get set way back by declining them but at the same time I didn't really want to go on an outrageous 20k wildflower production either. I'm now finishing the final of those contracts and have since had 3 of the 5 that are done be replaced with milk tasks. Why so little variety when I'm not doing anything different? Am I really getting that unlucky with the randomness here?

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  • Ozzie (AU1)Ozzie (AU1) AU1 Posts: 524
    Most of the contracts I have currently want between 1500 - 2500 milk, large amounts of apples & eggs.  I don't seem to have much of a variety also.
    I have 4 cows, 3 apples and 5 chickens.  It takes quite a while to fill each of them as I don't want to decline them also.

    I just plod along and fill as I can.  Variety would be nice as I have my bakery at Level 2 and shop Level 5 on flower farm.  Don't see much from those 2 at the moment.

    All we can do is to fill as we can even if it means taking 4,5 or 6+ days to fill them.  The money is good and we are making those items anyway on our farms.

    Happy farming.
  • Id really like to see how that whole thing is suppose to work. or how to better the contracts and get more money 
  • (Sorry in advance for the length of this comment)
    In order to improve contracts you need to stop declining them. It is much more complex than that but that's the key point. First of all break the contracts into 6 categories. One for each number of product- so don't look at a 1 item contract and 6 item contract the same. In order to improve the value of the contract you must complete contracts of that type (i.e. type 1 with 1 product) declining a contract will lower the value but only for that type so declining a 6 item contract DOES NOT affect the value of 1 item contracts. Below is a detailed example:

    Situation: You have 6 contracts; three are 1 item each with a value of 24, 1 is two item with a value of 15 and 2 are six item with values of 9. Now depending on how you fulfill or decline them will affect the future value of that product number of contract.

    If I were to decline the 2 item contract my future value would be lowered to roughly 13 (maybe 12 or 14 but it varies a little) HOWEVER, the value of any future 1 item contracts will remain unaffected by declining the 2 item contract. Same goes for the six item contracts.

    If I were to decline a 1 item contract then my other two value would remain as is BUT future 1 item contracts would be lowered to roughly 22 +/- 1. Accepting a 1 item contract and declining another roughly cancel out though not always is it exact. Accepting two of them and cancelling the third would result in a net gain value to roughly 26. Obviously accepting all 3 would have the best gains and get you to nearly 30 (probably 29 but you get the idea.)

    As for other factors involving value I am still uncertain. I don't notice much difference between limited and standard contracts as they affect values similarly. The number of items in a contract tends to be random regardless of what I do to try to alter it. And as a final note- I tend to do ALL 1 item contracts and about 90% of 2 item contracts to get their values as high as possible. Other contracts I decline routinely and their values tend to stay under 15. In this way I don't run out of items too quick because while the ask for a lot of the given item it is doable and easy enough to replenish compared to trying to replenish 6 different things. This of course is just my personal preference and works well for me. I'm level 68 and I imagine at higher levels I would start to take on more 3 item contracts as I could more easily replenish stock but not yet.

    ***Please note that my original issue of getting ONLY wildflowers and milk has now passed. It seemed to be a fluke thing though I will update as I progress. Anyone else with info to share?
  • I can only add how I work the Organic Market. I didn't decline any contracts until I had the whole market upgraded to the final available level 5 for all carts.

    Now I pick and choose which contracts I want to fill which makes the whole process a lot easier. I have one contract only at a time that needs large quantities of apples and milk and decline at least 50% of the contracts offered.

    This does put some on the contracts back to a lower level but as the market is already upgraded I don't worry about it.

    I have found that this way I am making good profits on the Market without loosing out to other requests such as the weekly deco events etc.

    I make a point of keeping my storage full and only use the excess product for the market. I also ignore ,most of the neighbor requests.

    Yes it did take me some time to get all the upgrades done but I feel it was worth it to get to the stage I am at now. This may not be the way the Market was intended to be used but it works for me. :)image
  • @Te Aroha (AU1)  I did the exact same thing. Declined very few contracts until my market was fully upgraded & since then I have tried not to decline ones where the value is lower, so that I can get them all up to a good % bonus. Now I just put excess produce on to long term contracts, so they sell for a better price when the contract is filled. :)
  • I was wondering if there is any difference shipping four contracts at once, opposed to shipping one by one...I've been saving them until they are complete to ship all at once..

    Does it have any effect on upgrades or monies you can receive in future contracts..?

    *_*.....don't want to be spinning my wheels

    Thanks

  • No, it doesn't affect them in what you'll get. You can send them whenever ready.
  • What is a "long term" contract?
  • Long Term contract is the one without a time limit showing, as the limited one you will see 1:00 for example, that is time limit. Do not start the timed ones unless you have all items available or you loose the items. If not done by the time it states.
  • Ok ty. 
    So the long term contracts can be added to a as you get them without fear of losing what you have already put in?
  • What is a "long term" contract?
    Where have you seen that? The organic market has standard contracts & limited contracts, the standard ones let you add things a bit at a time until its filled, the limited ones give you 1 hour to finish filling it, after you add the 1st item.
  • Ok ty. 
    So the long term contracts can be added to a as you get them without fear of losing what you have already put in?
    Yes. You're welcome.
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    and on the subject of lots of Apple contracts or lots of Milk contracts etc

    My experience is that they do indeed tend to come in waves.
    Several contracts all wanting the same product followed by several all wanting something else.

    My strategy is that I don't care about how long it takes to fill a contract but I only give them surplus (after supplying Events and the Ship). I only decline contracts that ask for products that I don't normally make (as I shall never have a surplus lol). 
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    Sounds like a faulty programming. It's more logical, natural and usefull to have variety instead of waves of the same, which basically block "sales".
  • how is the market upgraded? Simply fulfilling contracts? How does declining contract effect this? Is there an action I should avoid when trying to upgrade?
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    how is the market upgraded? Simply fulfilling contracts? How does declining contract effect this? Is there an action I should avoid when trying to upgrade?
    I don't remember how much was actually confirmed, but it seemed to work this way:

    • Fill contracts to upgrade both visuals and contract amounts (2 - 4 - 6).
    • Visual upgrades seem to follow the type of goods you deliver to contracts (gmain farm stall with main farm goods etc.)
    • Declining has no effect on upgrades, no effect in market with 2 and 4 contracts, no effect on zero value contracts.
    • With 6 contracts in the market the contracts value starts to grow (from 0 to 99) with every filled contract. Declining contract with higher value then zero tends to reduce it's value.
    • When trying to upgrade, avoid hitting your computer with 5 pound sledge hammer
    Not all guarantied tested info as there were many tweaks to OM, but hopefully it's still correct.

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