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The Jam Factories - A short brief
The Best King (INT1)
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Here we go, I'll give a quick overview and then show some numbers that might help a bit 
The jam factories can produce (at lvl 8+) 8 different types of jams.
It can be built from a pretty low lvl (lvl 40+) and just like the dairies you can only build 3 of them on the Gourmet Farm.
There are 9 level's to a jam factory, at level 1 you can produce 1 type of jam, all the way to lvl 8 you can produce 1 more type of jam per lvl, and lvl 9 reduces the amount of ingredients needed to produce all jams.
(Edit, almost forgot this part: Jams are really a money item, you can either sell them straight away, or you could use them to complete organic market contracts that ask for different types and amounts of jams. You can also use to to complete the boat which can get you a lot of horseshoes, though personally i think the money option is better)
To produce jam you need 2 ingredients, the first one is the corresponding jam type ingredient, so cherry jam takes cherries, elderberry jam takes elderberries etc, and it also takes a new product in bigfarm, fruit sugar:
Fruit sugar drops from the following orchards in specific amounts, none of the drop-rates are anywhere close to 100% and there's a small chance of the orchard dropping 3x the normal amount of fruit sugar:
Apple orchards - 30 or (3x amount) 90
Cherry orchards - 100 or 300
Peach orchards - 120 or 360
Citrus groves - 50 or 150
As well, the greenhouse drops small amounts of fruit sugar at a small chance drop rate, how much it drops depends on it's special or normal greenhouse seeds etc but i do think that there's a 3x drop-rate for the greenhouse as well, though it's hard to confirm.
And I didn't just forget the almond orchards and olive groves, they don't drop fruit sugar unfortunately
That's pretty much it, there's are 2 lists below, the first one is if you're running out of fruit sugar, the 2nd one is if you have enough fruit sugar to produce any type of jam you want for as long as you can:
From left to right you have the name of the jam, the production time, the amount of jam you produce per production, the amount 1 jam of that type can be sold for divided by the amount of sugar fruit 1 production takes = the amount of money you make per fruit sugar
The jam factories can produce (at lvl 8+) 8 different types of jams.
It can be built from a pretty low lvl (lvl 40+) and just like the dairies you can only build 3 of them on the Gourmet Farm.
There are 9 level's to a jam factory, at level 1 you can produce 1 type of jam, all the way to lvl 8 you can produce 1 more type of jam per lvl, and lvl 9 reduces the amount of ingredients needed to produce all jams.
(Edit, almost forgot this part: Jams are really a money item, you can either sell them straight away, or you could use them to complete organic market contracts that ask for different types and amounts of jams. You can also use to to complete the boat which can get you a lot of horseshoes, though personally i think the money option is better
)To produce jam you need 2 ingredients, the first one is the corresponding jam type ingredient, so cherry jam takes cherries, elderberry jam takes elderberries etc, and it also takes a new product in bigfarm, fruit sugar:
Fruit sugar drops from the following orchards in specific amounts, none of the drop-rates are anywhere close to 100% and there's a small chance of the orchard dropping 3x the normal amount of fruit sugar:
Apple orchards - 30 or (3x amount) 90
Cherry orchards - 100 or 300
Peach orchards - 120 or 360
Citrus groves - 50 or 150
As well, the greenhouse drops small amounts of fruit sugar at a small chance drop rate, how much it drops depends on it's special or normal greenhouse seeds etc but i do think that there's a 3x drop-rate for the greenhouse as well, though it's hard to confirm.
And I didn't just forget the almond orchards and olive groves, they don't drop fruit sugar unfortunately
That's pretty much it, there's are 2 lists below, the first one is if you're running out of fruit sugar, the 2nd one is if you have enough fruit sugar to produce any type of jam you want for as long as you can:
From left to right you have the name of the jam, the production time, the amount of jam you produce per production, the amount 1 jam of that type can be sold for divided by the amount of sugar fruit 1 production takes = the amount of money you make per fruit sugar
Apple Jam (2H): (130×2100)÷161 = $1695.7/fruit sugar
Cherry Jam (18M): (90×3700)÷114 = $2921.1/fruit sugar
Peach Jam (8H): (240×2000)÷256 = $1875/fruit sugar
Pineapple Jam (22M): (110×6150)÷133 = $5086.5/fruit sugar
Rose hip Jam (1H 30M): (100×5800)÷95 = $6105.3/fruit sugar
Blackberry Jam (5H): (180×6500)÷171 = $6842.1/fruit sugar
Elderberry Jam (6H): (*230 200×6000)÷218 = *$6330.3/fruit sugar $5504.6/fruit sugar
Apricot Jam (4H): (*161 140×6900)÷171 = *$6496.5/fruit sugar $5649.1/fruit sugar
If you have more than enough fruit sugar, here's the money you earn per minute of producing each type of jam, from left to right, Type, production amount, selling amount divided by the production time (in minutes) = the amount of money you earn per minute
If you have more than enough fruit sugar, here's the money you earn per minute of producing each type of jam, from left to right, Type, production amount, selling amount divided by the production time (in minutes) = the amount of money you earn per minute
Apple Jam: (130×2100)÷120 = $2275/Minute
Cherry Jam: (90×3700)÷18 = $18500/Minute
Peach Jam: (240×2000)÷480 = $1000/Minute
Pineapple Jam: (110×6150)÷22 = $30750/Minute
Rose hip Jam: (100×5800)÷90 = $6444.5/Minute
Blackberry Jam: (180×6500)÷300 = $3900/Minute
Elderberry Jam: (*230 200×6000)÷360 = *$3833.4/Minute $3333.4/Minute
Apricot Jam: (*161 140×6900)÷240 = *$4628.8/Minute $4025/Minute
For information on the jam factories and sugar fruit, check out crazybigfarm, also check out @"Heather Norsk (US1)" 's comment on profit/batch of jam and @ninjahuman (AU1) 's comment for extra-important information on the jams
Hope this helps, please keep in mind that these numbers are using level 9 jam factories, so while the $/minute info should not be effected, the $/sugar fruit numbers will definitely be different compared to numbers based on different level's of the jam factory.
*Edit (07/02/21): Made a mistake with the calculations, the production amounts of Apricot Jam and Elderberry jam were counted when the building had a +15% gift on it, the numbers have been adjusted and seems that only Apricot and Elderberry had wrong numbers as far as i can see
For information on the jam factories and sugar fruit, check out crazybigfarm, also check out @"Heather Norsk (US1)" 's comment on profit/batch of jam and @ninjahuman (AU1) 's comment for extra-important information on the jams
Hope this helps, please keep in mind that these numbers are using level 9 jam factories, so while the $/minute info should not be effected, the $/sugar fruit numbers will definitely be different compared to numbers based on different level's of the jam factory.
*Edit (07/02/21): Made a mistake with the calculations, the production amounts of Apricot Jam and Elderberry jam were counted when the building had a +15% gift on it, the numbers have been adjusted and seems that only Apricot and Elderberry had wrong numbers as far as i can see
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I hadn't considered calculating profit per sugar
Great to see we both came up with exactly the same #s for profit/minute
I would just like to point out, that if anyone is looking at jams that take longer periods of time to run overnight or while at work, they should consider the profit per a batch of jam, not just the per minute
peaches produce 240 jam in 8 hours, for a total batch profit of $480,000
blackberries produce 180 jam in 5 hours, for a total batch profit of $1,170,000
elderberries produce 200 jam in 6 hours, for a total batch profit of $1,200,000
apricots produce 140 jam in 4 hours, for a total batch profit of $966,000
(so, even though apricots have a better per minute profit, elderberries will give a better profit if logged off for 6 or more hours)
** please note my figures are based on income, not net profit, as no value was deducted for the cost of any ingredients**
Great info, thanks for coming up with it @Heather Norsk (US1) , i would never have thought of it
Just to be clear though for other players, if you're just worried about the dollars, Elderberry Jam is the best if you're leaving it for >6H, but if fruit sugar is any type of constraint, Blackberries would be the preferred jam as it gives 2.5% less $ than Elderberry but takes 21.5% less fruit sugar.
As well, it seems that the new "premium greenhouse seeds" can be bought in an offer that pops up, basically you can buy a type (let's say blackberry) of premium seeds with 200 of the same type of normal seeds or 6 of the same type of special seeds
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I can not buy the other seeds
True, though i'm pretty sure there are quite a few normal as well as a few premium seeds available in events like the cc, hwe's etc as well as in the horse season hard work rewards.
And, a good trick to play the temporary farms is too, for the viking farms, build some seals and flip them with premium seal feed that you can buy with runestones, for the candy farm, build a lvl 4 field, crushing mill, sugar mill, candy factory and 5 x lvl 4 sweet almonds and flip the candy factory in marzipan
The tropical farm is pretty much the same as the viking farm strategy, just can't remember what the building is, seals as well i think
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For the apple jam, you need 902 apples with a level 9 jam factory which can be sold for 50,512 dollars if your cooperative research is completed. The base production cost amount is 2,166 dollars so you will have to adjust this depending on your gourmet farm production costs. The profit considering the ingredients and production costs will range from to 209,492 to 222,488 dollars depending on your production costs which yields a profit per minute ranging from around 1,746 to 1,854 dollars.
For the cherry jam, you need 760 cherries with a level 9 jam factory which can be sold for 171,000 dollars if your cooperative research is completed. The base production cost is 1,500 dollars. The profit considering the ingredients and production costs will range from to 153,000 to 162,000 dollars depending on your production costs which yields a profit per minute ranging from around 8,500 to 9,000 dollars.
For the peach jam, you need 950 peaches with a level 9 jam factory which can be sold for 95,000 dollars if your cooperative research is completed. The base production cost is 4,000 dollars. The profit considering the ingredients and production costs will range from to 361,000 to 385,000 dollars depending on your production costs which yields a profit per minute ranging from around 752 to 802 dollars.
The other recipes all involve produce from the greenhouse and no production costs are involved there unless we consider investing resources into the temporary farm in order to do this, but that would be comparing a different resource to farm dollars so I won't do it here.
Now for the practicality of those first three recipes, it is going to depend on your orchard setup. Generally players will be able to produce a far larger quantity of apples than cherries or peaches so the first recipe is definitely possible to be sustainably produced on three jam factories while the player is online if you have enough apple orchards. On the other hand, there is no practical way to sustainably produce the second recipe as it has an extremely high demand for cherries and the third is not much better with its demand for peaches.
I don't have all the production costs for the recipes yet, so I will be talking about these without having seen these costs and will assume they are not great enough to affect the choice to use one over the other.
Ideally, it's better to invest in upgrading the jam factory as high as possible and to look into the greenhouse produce recipes. Supplying the necessary pineapples and rose hips can be a challenge to sustainably produce pineapple jam and rose hip jam. Elderberry jam appears to require a somewhat higher activity level to sustainably produce enough elderberries for continuous production and the profit is only very slightly higher than blackberry jam. Apricot jam appears to be really effective in terms of activity required for the greenhouse to maintain production of the recipe during the day.
I'm looking into producing apricot jam while online and blackberry jam offline as this should not require too much production within the greenhouse and should give a profit of around 12 million dollars per day with maximum level jam factories. The fruit sugar consumption appears to be better as the recipe production time increases, but if you have enough orchards the fruit sugar shouldn't be an issue.
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For those that are interested, here's a full list of the basic production costs for the jams:
Apple jam: $2,166
Cherry jam: $1,500
Peach jam: $4,000
Pineapple jam: $1,833
Rose hip jam: $1,666
Blackberry jam: $3,000
Elderberry jam: $3,333
Apricot jam: $2,333
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Morti --- I must ask you to use English here like all the other non native English speakers here
This is an International forum but the language is English only
It is because I have google to show the page in Danish that I do not discover it. I've turned it off
cc = Cooperative championship, hwe = hard worker event, though hwe's can include cooperative hard worker events (chwe) as well
The trick with the temporary farms is the find the way to play them that takes the least amount of money, as they can be a money pit if you're not careful
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At first glance, this looks like a terrible offer. The # of fruit that can be produced by 200 regular seeds or 6 special seeds is a lot more flowers than can be produced by 1 premium seed.
(I do however find them easier to look at with punctuation to separate units (thousands, millions, etc))
I am curious, why you previously stated "I'm looking into producing apricot jam while online and blackberry jam offline". When, how I am looking at these #s, it appears pineapple jam to give the best profit while online, and elderberry when offline (elderberry giving the largest profit for 1 production irregardless of time, and pineapple giving best profit per minute)
The reason I said that is because I think it will be extremely difficult to get the required number of pineapples for production and I think it's a lot harder to get the elderberries compared to the blackberries and it only gives around 30k extra dollars per production.
I tried to do some calculation and possibly around 73m vouchers may have to be spent per year on apricot special seeds. So this may be a bit expensive but it will help give a big profit.
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Of course, i don't think ggs were going to give us more greenhouse fruits as well as more convenience, it's a trade off, of course, you can get more fruits with 200 normal seeds, but you do have to flip them a lot more, the same thing applies to the special to premium seed conversion, though i'm keeping my special seeds as i flip them all day long
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But my recipes say
Edit: I just set it up so that it works the way you described. I hope that helps.
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