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Impromptu poll -- Co-op Challenge
amaprincess1 (US1)
Posts: 636
Please respond with one of the following poll choices and add your reasons for answering this way, if you have time: (Feel free to copy and paste your selection or just respond with a number)
1.) I really dislike the new co-op challenge format and I strongly believe that changes must be made for me to continue to participate;
2.) I love the new co-op format and will continue to play.
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I like -
The leagues and divisions - many more co-ops can strive to come first, or be promoted, or avoid relegation
Being able to see the scores of adjacent co-ops - we know when a push is required and can all give extra
I hate -
The prizes - they are rubbish, both the league prizes and the hardwork awards. They need to be at least as good as those for the Silo Event.
1.) I really dislike the new co-op challenge format and I strongly believe that changes must be made for me to continue to participate
The main reason is the wide difference in rewards between the leagues. Small coops are not always newbie players, and the majority of us over level 100 really have no need for speedy feed and 1 sunflower seed.
I also feel that the sale of rep points during the challenge is undermining all the hard work that non-gold buyers do to get up in the rankings.
The new changes to the challenge format has amplified the problem of excessive gold usage significantly.
It has always been a pain, trying to use strategy and hard work against players who just throw huge amounts of gold at everything and just barrel over everyone.
It is demoralizing to have to play like that and I, for one, see no point to it.
Furthermore, the complete lack of any response to the grievances a great many of us had brought up since the last challenge started (even just to acknowledge and recognise that these grievances exist), has left me very disillusioned.
After 17 months of logging onto this game every single day, and 134 levels, I am very seriously contemplating just walking away.
2.) I love the new co-op format and will continue to play... if changes are made to the current format.
- Prizes need to be upgraded to real prizes.
- Buying reputation points shouldn't exist in a competition. (boosters are there, why add insult to injury?)
- Gold league expectations should be tweaked to a more achievable amount of reputation points
- The CC Wheel needs to be removed (again, buying reputation points)
I did like the divisions, the ability to win in each division, the ability to see score of co-op above and below your co-op, the ability to be promoted or demoted
I really dislike the new co-op challenge format and I strongly believe that changes must be made for me to continue to participate.
The strategy is no longer important during missions, either long-term strategy in building your farm to compete with higher chances, or just during the missions, paying attention to the competitors and trying to collect in the last seconds a.o. - now it is only important how much gold are you willing to spend. Which it is still acceptable, as the points are gained during a mission. The same with the 250% bonus of rep. pts. - missions must be done to win points.
Why don't they change the format of the event and make it an auction for the 1st prize, which co-op pays the most wins?
-the prizes - in the past, we were happy to win some decorations for our lower level colleagues and other useful stuff -for the last challenge most of them seemed worthless
-the lack of the ranking display inside the co-op, as well as the absent scores of the other co-ops at the end
-way too many bugs and consequently hotfixes occurring during missions
Mind you without gold though. (I stopped gold purchases since late last year, my personal boycott against many changes, and hey ho, farming has become much more relaxed since then)
Good points:
- no more solo missions
- mission-start in general popped up much much faster with a larger number of people as opponents.
Bad points:
- Too low-rate certificates - I use the tractors a lot, and suddenly am struggling to keep them running
- the new hard-work prizes are terribly measly compared to previous batch that included decs such as the blue tractor,
Couldn't have phrased it better!
Won't mention RP, i personally have stopped caring
A big thumbs up to the coops that played mission after mission and earned their placings. This CC will be nothing but a flop as long as rep points can be bought because it undermines the whole concept of "competition".
Was not a great fan of CC to start with, but played to help lower leveled coop members gain a few needed extra decors. Now there is nothing worth playing for the rewards can be produced much easier and much quicker yourself.
As to the *buying* of RP as has been said before its no longer a competition but who can throw the most money at it.
Any further participation on my part will only occur when both of the above points have been rectified.
1.) I really dislike the new co-op challenge format and I strongly believe that changes must be made
I have never really enjoyed the coop challenge, and was cautiously optimistic that GGS was going to make it more fair for everyone with the new and improved CC this time. EPIC FAIL. The changes that GGS implemented did not address fairness, instead only widened the fairness gap. The Hardwork 'Rewards' were a slap in the face (wet pig feed? special corn seeds? Get serious!). The matching of players was ridiculous, (Level 7 newbie competing against level 147 veteran?). The only positive thing about the new format was that I had no solo missions.
I play missions all the time without using gold, without boosters and without buying reputation points. I play missions based on the merits of my farms and my strategy. I win some, lose some and earn some rep points and certificates. I play the Coop Challenge the same way, and will continue to play missions this way regardless of whether the CC is on or not.
I have been playing the game for over 2 years, I am at level 186. As a previous gold buyer who loved this game, I have only bought gold once in the last 1.5 years (a very small amount, to finish off a coop project).
This game started off as a game of strategy: Slowly build a nice balanced farm, and you would eventually be able to afford more and have a better farm and move up in the ranks, etc. I have seen many changes to the game I loved over the years, a lot of them not positive changes. The game has devolved into a slot-machine, get-rich-quick scheme, that no longer values long-term strategy or loyalty to it's customers.This Coop Challenge is just the latest example of this.
I'm currently summarizing the problems everyone had with the HW rewards from this, the announcement discussion and other threads, and if you want to help, feel free to add a few, quick, examples of cases you didn't really like, and why that is the case
..there is so many things to say, but of all of them the best one is :
- how is possible ,in first 2 seconds of mission, to have 60 000 pig's out of 2 pigsties that are not even on their highest lvl ?
that is just one thing, and there are som many alike ,and even more terrible ..... But I don't have so much time to write them all , because ...well,nobody will do anything about it..
Now we came 4th in the gold league, the HW rewards were mostly out of our reach, so we no longer got 50 rewards, there is no top 10 reward anymore so we got no cherry orchard, no one got an apple orchard so we will never get them now & the rewards we did get are not worth the effort needed to win them.
Also ALL wet feed should be removed, both from any HW rewards & from the WoF, that is not a reward, we can make it in a few minutes if we needed it (which we don`t) because its pretty useless imo & having won a ton of the stuff on the WoF I had to dump it all as soon as I got a feed mission.
Finally bring back the end of event rankings. We no longer get to see the final scores for all coops & we don`t get to see our members final scores at all.
- Remove Buying of Reputation in any form (Wheel of Fortune, Gold offers, Boosters). How about we actually earn Reputation by doing missions? I know I am barking up the wrong tree with this one, but this is my biggest complaint LOL.
- Hard work prizes that I can actually use, and that will increase my Coop's desire to pull together and participate (Hint: speedy feed, regular feed, dung & leaves are not prizes!)
- Better matching of Players (no level 7 playing against level147). Perhaps match players based on their coop's league,as it is obvious that those in Rookie or Bronze Leagues are not forking out massive amounts of Gold.
EDIT to add:Could I also ask that the frequency of speedy seeds missions be reduced? Seems I would just finish alfalfa then get rutabagas then a few missions later get them again. I mean, you end up having to sell off most of what you make, even after making speedy feed.
If any matching is done, though, I think it would be best to base it solely on player level, and to clearly announce what player levels are grouped together. There will always be complaints, but people will complain a lot less if the matching rules are clear, and everyone can see that they are being matched according to those rules.
And matching by player level will eliminate the problem of players having to sandbag between challenges in order to get easy mission opponents during the challenge.